From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Pascal J. Bourguignon" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: if vs. when vs. and: style question Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2015 13:19:42 +0100 Organization: Informatimago Message-ID: <874mp61vkx.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> References: <87sicvwckx.fsf@wmi.amu.edu.pl> <87wq27yvqg.fsf@debian.uxu> <8d531e99-7260-4263-ac99-09c6871e2708@googlegroups.com> <87vbhq53lf.fsf@debian.uxu> <87a8z23p23.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> <87lhilx0cf.fsf@debian.uxu> <87twx9360u.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> <0d1d19ab-06e9-462d-8867-9a49b1e232d3@googlegroups.com> <87619n8dte.fsf@debian.uxu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1427459441 30121 80.91.229.3 (27 Mar 2015 12:30:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2015 12:30:41 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Mar 27 13:30:37 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YbTOz-0005kK-Ja for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2015 13:30:17 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49995 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YbTOy-0001Jg-TR for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 Mar 2015 08:30:16 -0400 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 46 Original-X-Trace: individual.net BDYqNiwaba2vwP6zve6ICwopPSl+vDK8V5Sv/vTaBtqhPgFfTr Cancel-Lock: sha1:ZTJhMzUyOWZlNDczY2YxNGY3YTE1ZDVkN2ZlNTYxNGFjZjJhNWQxNw== sha1:14g5IqxYpaZLUOrE1C8ewlVzuxQ= Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwAQMAAABtzGvEAAAABlBMVEUAAAD///+l2Z/dAAAA oElEQVR4nK3OsRHCMAwF0O8YQufUNIQRGIAja9CxSA55AxZgFO4coMgYrEDDQZWPIlNAjwq9 033pbOBPtbXuB6PKNBn5gZkhGa86Z4x2wE67O+06WxGD/HCOGR0deY3f9Ijwwt7rNGNf6Oac l/GuZTF1wFGKiYYHKSFAkjIo1b6sCYS1sVmFhhhahKQssRjRT90ITWUk6vvK3RsPGs+M1RuR mV+hO/VvFAAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== X-Accept-Language: fr, es, en User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:211106 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:103388 Archived-At: "Gian Uberto Lauri" writes: > Emanuel Berg writes: > > Rusi writes: > > > > > On a different note... For 50 years CS has been > > > living in the impoverished world of ASCII. > > > This makes people think CS and math are more far > > > apart than they essentially/really are. > > > > ASCII is sufficient for all computer use that is > > indeed computer use. > > If "computer use" means "computer programming", your sentence may be > true. > > If "computer use" means "using a computer in everyday work", then > the sentence is "a bit" wrong. > > > Why do you think mankind abandoned the iconographic > > baby-steps of the old Sumerians? > > There is a remarkable number of people that still uses ideograms. And by the way, they do so more easily, not by typing on a keyboard, but by drawing the ideogram on a tablet or smartphone screen with a stylus. (The computer may then recognize the ideogram and normalize it). The same could be done for mathematic ideograms. > And the evolution of writing you refer to is bound more to > writing technology and speed of writing. Probably. Western writing was based on hammer and scisor, or clay and stylus, and later ink and quill, which leads more naturally to discrete glyphs, while Eastern writing was based on ink and brush, and that led more naturally to an ideographic script. (The outcast being the stranger hieroglyph). -- __Pascal Bourguignon__ http://www.informatimago.com/ “The factory of the future will have only two employees, a man and a dog. The man will be there to feed the dog. The dog will be there to keep the man from touching the equipment.” -- Carl Bass CEO Autodesk