From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Rodolfo Medina Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: [solved] Re: How to uninstall Emacs? 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X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:103662 Archived-At: Emanuel Berg writes: > Rodolfo Medina writes: > >> Then, what about the above emacs24-common-non-dfsg >> package? Will it be also automatically upgraded to >> future Emacs versions? > > The package manager is like a tree data structure. > It determines what software depend on what other > software. It does compilation order, to. If software > C depends on B and B depends on A, and you don't have > A and B but install C, you'll get A and B in the > bargain. If you then attempts to uninstall B while > under the influence, the package manager will tell you > this will break C, which will make you sober up a bit. > If you still want to do it the next day it is of > course possible, but in essence: > > 1) Don't worry about it. > > 2) Don't uninstall anything - this isn't Windoze: > software which you don't use don't bother anyone, > they aren't bulky on the disk and they don't run in > the supposed "background", they are just a binary > file mostly up to no good so just let them be. > > 3) Don't be conservative installing stuff for the same > reason as (2) - whenever you think "maybe" you need > it, it "might" be the thing you look for, that > "sounds" interesting, etc. - that means you should > install it (again, unless the package manager warns > you it'll break something) > > 4) Be conservative with upgrades. There is no need to > be hysterical about it. Not every piece of software > needs to be at the most advanced version. > Upgrade your main software once in a while. > The rest of the software will upgrade automatically > in time - if you do it explicitly, do it for > a reason (e.g., you suspect you've come across > a bug that has been fixed in a more recent > version). Don't do it because you are hysterical > about it. > > Remember, "the only thing to fear is fear itself". > > The computer is a machine which is fun to muck around > with, but it is also a tool to do useful things. > If you muck around too much, that will be all you do, > because it'll reproduce. There are nuances: Elisp > programming mucking can be educative and productive in > the long run, but being neurotic about version numbers > and inter-software dependencies is on the flip side of > it. You know what I'm saying? I do and much agree with you. I just wish to let Debian to automatically upgrade my Emacs. Thanks, Rodolfo