From: Tassilo Horn <tsdh@gnu.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Clarification on hooks and custom-set-variables
Date: Fri, 07 Aug 2015 17:40:48 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <874mkbksxr.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvh9obqgvr.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Fri, 07 Aug 2015 11:11:28 -0400")
Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
>> Now when he starts emacs, the value of `LaTeX-mode-hook' will be
>> '(LaTeX-preview-setup). Huh, where are the configs gone?
>
> Not applied (yet). What happens after he opens a LaTeX file?
Then it contains just `preview-mode-setup'. That's because
`LaTeX-preview-setup' replaces itself with that. In any case, the user
configs won't be applied.
>> AUCTeX uses `LaTeX-mode-hook' internally, too. auctex-autoloads.el adds
>> the preview setup function
>> (add-hook 'LaTeX-mode-hook #'LaTeX-preview-setup)
>
> FWIW, this probably made sense back when latex-preview was a separate
> package, but now you're better off calling LaTeX-preview-setup
> unconditionally from AUCTeX's latex-mode.
Indeed.
>> The `custom-set-variables' docs don't tell me when customizations are
>> applied when NOW is omitted or nil. I guess, it'll be done just when
>> the corresponding defcustom form is evaluated, right?
>
> Sound be, yes.
>
>> Does that make sense? Or why does the customized value get lost?
>> And most importantly, how to I fix that?
>
> Custom just sucks at handling vars which are both set via Custom and
> set by random Elisp code. E.g. depending on the circumstances, you
> could end up with only (flyspell-mode LaTeX-math-mode turn-on-reftex)
> in the hook, i.e. without LaTeX-preview-setup.
>
> The best fixes I can think of:
> - don't make it a defcustom.
Probably that ship has sailed since it has been a defcustom for ages.
> - split it into a defcustom (only set by the user) and a defvar (only
> set by Elisp code).
Well, in this concrete case I just go with calling `LaTeX-preview-setup'
unconditionally.
Bye,
Tassilo
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2015-08-05 7:17 Clarification on hooks and custom-set-variables Tassilo Horn
2015-08-07 15:11 ` Stefan Monnier
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