From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] master db828f6: Don't rely on defaults in decoding UTF-8 encoded Lisp files Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2015 10:37:16 +0200 Message-ID: <874migqmv7.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <20150921165211.20434.28114@vcs.savannah.gnu.org> <83fv27mt7r.fsf@gnu.org> <83wpvfix7i.fsf@gnu.org> <83fv23hr0z.fsf@gnu.org> <5605CB6B.4000102@cs.ucla.edu> <83twqhhf0g.fsf@gnu.org> <5606AC48.7090801@cs.ucla.edu> <83zj09fbzp.fsf@gnu.org> <5606C140.6090309@cs.ucla.edu> <878u7trwlb.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <5606E995.2000102@cs.ucla.edu> <83si61ezxd.fsf@gnu.org> <2FCA0DAD-831B-4B0A-B948-9F31DE52B6F0@gmail.com> <87twqgrgtv.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <56077423.6030800@cs.ucla.edu> <83lhbsfgzs.fsf@gnu.org> <5607A028.90807@cs.ucla.edu> <83k2rcffwe.fsf@gnu.org> <5607A905.3030501@cs.ucla.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1443343060 18476 80.91.229.3 (27 Sep 2015 08:37:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2015 08:37:40 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 27 10:37:39 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Zg7Sb-0001gi-Dl for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 27 Sep 2015 10:37:29 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56587 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zg7SV-0000ip-UJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 27 Sep 2015 04:37:23 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59673) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zg7SS-0000ij-5z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Sep 2015 04:37:20 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zg7SR-0000vK-AN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Sep 2015 04:37:20 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:54894) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zg7SP-0000uy-Ro; Sun, 27 Sep 2015 04:37:17 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40480 helo=lola) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1Zg7SP-0001PN-45; Sun, 27 Sep 2015 04:37:17 -0400 Original-Received: by lola (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 721F8DF4A9; Sun, 27 Sep 2015 10:37:16 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <5607A905.3030501@cs.ucla.edu> (Paul Eggert's message of "Sun, 27 Sep 2015 01:29:57 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:190391 Archived-At: Paul Eggert writes: > Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> If >> that's portability between locales, then our solution of having a >> coding cookie is better for Emacs, because it supports more use cases >> than just assuming UTF-8 would. > > Sure, but the point is that we shouldn't need a cookie for UTF-8. Is this the majestic "we" or are you talking about Emacs development in particular? If the latter, why not set a directory-wide variable for the Emacs project (namely in the repository) for making the Emacs-internal Elisp files default to utf-8? That should cater for "us" without enforcing encodings in other people's projects. -- David Kastrup