From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Engster Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: IDE Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2015 14:27:02 +0200 Message-ID: <874mhxoajt.fsf@isaac.fritz.box> References: <5612E996.7090700@yandex.ru> <83bnc7tavr.fsf@gnu.org> <5618C92A.3040207@yandex.ru> <83a8rrt9ag.fsf@gnu.org> <5618D376.1080700@yandex.ru> <831td3t62e.fsf@gnu.org> <5618E51D.4070800@yandex.ru> <83twpzrp05.fsf@gnu.org> <5618ED93.8000001@yandex.ru> <83lhbbrnn7.fsf@gnu.org> <56191D6B.8040405@yandex.ru> <838u7assvj.fsf@gnu.org> <561A3582.5080806@yandex.ru> <561A3756.1010404@gmx.at> <561A41CA.6060908@yandex.ru> <561A4A3B.5050503@gmx.at> <561A4CBA.4050106@yandex.ru> <561A512A.3060904@gmx.at> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1444566460 14708 80.91.229.3 (11 Oct 2015 12:27:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2015 12:27:40 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org, adatgyujto@gmail.com, Dmitry Gutov To: martin rudalics Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 11 14:27:30 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZlFir-0007cy-KT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 11 Oct 2015 14:27:29 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48213 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZlFir-0004ml-10 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 11 Oct 2015 08:27:29 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:51963) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZlFiZ-0004e9-Le for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Oct 2015 08:27:13 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZlFiT-0005u0-Ks for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Oct 2015 08:27:11 -0400 Original-Received: from randomsample.de ([5.45.97.173]:56727) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZlFiT-0005tV-Fu; Sun, 11 Oct 2015 08:27:05 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=randomsample.de; s=a; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From; bh=AbB1/3LEe9LAbmtBZk735J9zbfRydEd+UybqZz+yRUU=; b=Aarcz9BM99A7OAPOJ3AZ78S8D/AEOA1q6q1rOb7oR/ORidS9Si3ZK0+AVCDe4hzs/uOKFqwd2hQzqELPpUdI9XxwF8pPs4b7MCsjIAsUzUo+ecZVXmK0YPbijLycT/AR; Original-Received: from ip4d1645ea.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de ([77.22.69.234] helo=isaac.fritz.box) by randomsample.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ZlFiS-0003L7-3E; Sun, 11 Oct 2015 14:27:04 +0200 In-Reply-To: <561A512A.3060904@gmx.at> (martin rudalics's message of "Sun, 11 Oct 2015 14:08:10 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13001 (Ma Gnus v0.10) Emacs/24.5 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 5.45.97.173 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:191215 Archived-At: martin rudalics writes: >>> Are you by any chance using GTK tooltips? They are a pain. >> >> I've built Emacs with GTK 3, if that's what you mean. The configure >> script does that by default here. > > Try setting =E2=80=98x-gtk-use-system-tooltips=E2=80=99 to nil. > >>> Maybe we should just use simple frames with all decorations >>> removed. >> >> How do I do that? > > By making a frame without minibuffer, title, scroll, tool, menu bars > and > borders. Maybe it can't be done in Lisp alone. Here's what I use in my doc-present package[1] for displaying slides: (with-selected-frame (make-frame '((minibuffer . nil) (left-fringe . 0) (right-fringe . 0) (menu-bar-lines . 0) (internal-border-width . 0) (vertical-scroll-bars . nil) (unsplittable . t) (cursor-type . nil) (tool-bar-lines . 0))) (pop-to-buffer (get-buffer-create "*test*")) (setq mode-line-format nil)) The only thing remaining are the decorations from the window manager. I don't think you can get rid of those from within Emacs? -David