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* bug#22735: 24.3; org-set-effort *without* numeric prefix - still forces me to use nth allowed
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@ 2016-02-18 17:28 ` David Caldwell
  2016-02-22 23:12   ` bug#22735: please close 22735 (i would like to replace it with 22776) David Caldwell
  2017-12-02  8:28   ` bug#22735: 24.3; org-set-effort *without* numeric prefix - still forces me to use nth allowed Nicolas Goaziou
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: David Caldwell @ 2016-02-18 17:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 22735

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Hi,

 
on one box (emacs 24.3.1, org-mode version  7.9.3f) when I do 'C-c C-x e', i can enter an effort estimate string directly as shown in Effort_ALL property (e.g. 3w).however on another box (emacs 24.3.1, org-mode version 8.3.3), the ' C-c C-x e' prompt me: ' Select 1-9,0, [RET]: 0 1h 2h 4h 1d 2d 3d 4d 1w 2w 3w 4w'if i try to enter 3w, it sets the effort to 2h (the 3rd entry)org-set-effort help describes that behavior when a numerical prefix arg is usedit's happening for me with or without a numeric prefix argit seems to me that without the numeric prefix, i should still be able to enter 3wthe 'nth allowed' prompt should only occur *with* the numeric prefix

effort settings:

 
the only effort-related setting in my .emacs file is:                (setq org-time-clocksum-use-effort-durations t)at the top of the .org file:                #+PROPERTY: Effort_ALL 0 1h 2h 4h 1d 2d 3d 4d 1w 2w 3w 4wunder the top level heading for which i want estimates:                :PROPERTIES:                :COLUMNS:  %90ITEM(Task) %10Effort(Estimated Effort){:} %CLOCKSUM                :END:
 
David
 
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* bug#22735: please close 22735 (i would like to replace it with 22776)
  2016-02-18 17:28 ` bug#22735: 24.3; org-set-effort *without* numeric prefix - still forces me to use nth allowed David Caldwell
@ 2016-02-22 23:12   ` David Caldwell
  2016-02-24 17:39     ` Nicolas Goaziou
  2017-12-02  8:28   ` bug#22735: 24.3; org-set-effort *without* numeric prefix - still forces me to use nth allowed Nicolas Goaziou
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: David Caldwell @ 2016-02-22 23:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 22735@debbugs.gnu.org

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After more experimentation, I got a better understanding of the functionality and now consider bug 22735 to be invalid as written.  I now think it's a more fundamental issue of not handling an Effort_ALL with more than 10 entries.

That issue is documented in bug #22776(interactive org-set-effort (C-c C-x e) and column view direct index selection do not handle Effort_ALL with more than 10 entries).

David

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* bug#22735: please close 22735 (i would like to replace it with 22776)
  2016-02-22 23:12   ` bug#22735: please close 22735 (i would like to replace it with 22776) David Caldwell
@ 2016-02-24 17:39     ` Nicolas Goaziou
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Nicolas Goaziou @ 2016-02-24 17:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: David Caldwell; +Cc: 22735@debbugs.gnu.org

Hello,

David Caldwell <ddcows2006@yahoo.com> writes:

> After more experimentation, I got a better understanding of the
> functionality and now consider bug 22735 to be invalid as written.  I
> now think it's a more fundamental issue of not handling an Effort_ALL
> with more than 10 entries.
>
> That issue is documented in bug #22776(interactive org-set-effort (C-c
> C-x e) and column view direct index selection do not handle Effort_ALL
> with more than 10 entries).

I made some substantial changes to Column view recently. I think this
issue is fixed already.


Regards,

-- 
Nicolas Goaziou

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* bug#22735: 24.3; org-set-effort *without* numeric prefix - still forces me to use nth allowed
  2016-02-18 17:28 ` bug#22735: 24.3; org-set-effort *without* numeric prefix - still forces me to use nth allowed David Caldwell
  2016-02-22 23:12   ` bug#22735: please close 22735 (i would like to replace it with 22776) David Caldwell
@ 2017-12-02  8:28   ` Nicolas Goaziou
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Nicolas Goaziou @ 2017-12-02  8:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: David Caldwell; +Cc: 22735, Carsten Dominik

Hello,

David Caldwell <ddcows2006@yahoo.com> writes:

> on one box (emacs 24.3.1, org-mode version  7.9.3f) when I do 'C-c C-x
> e', i can enter an effort estimate string directly as shown in
> Effort_ALL property (e.g. 3w).however on another box (emacs 24.3.1,
> org-mode version 8.3.3), the ' C-c C-x e' prompt me: ' Select 1-9,0,
> [RET]: 0 1h 2h 4h 1d 2d 3d 4d 1w 2w 3w 4w'if i try to enter 3w, it
> sets the effort to 2h (the 3rd entry)org-set-effort help describes
> that behavior when a numerical prefix arg is usedit's happening for me
> with or without a numeric prefix argit seems to me that without the
> numeric prefix, i should still be able to enter 3wthe 'nth allowed'
> prompt should only occur *with* the numeric prefix
>
> effort settings:
>
>  
> the only effort-related setting in my .emacs file is:               
> (setq org-time-clocksum-use-effort-durations t)at the top of the .org
> file:                #+PROPERTY: Effort_ALL 0 1h 2h 4h 1d 2d 3d 4d 1w
> 2w 3w 4wunder the top level heading for which i want
> estimates:                :PROPERTIES:                :COLUMNS: 
> %90ITEM(Task) %10Effort(Estimated Effort){:}
> %CLOCKSUM                :END:
>  

The behaviour you describe was introduced in:

    commit a1fea8b3d1932b1c5977e778af634e7c26f063a1
    Author: Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>
    Date:   Tue Nov 3 17:48:37 2009 +0100

        Make `org-set-effort' access effort values by index


IMO, it would be better to use regular completion instead, as you
suggest, if only to get access to items past the tenth. However, there
might be a specific reason for this change. Carsten (Cc'ed) may give us
some hindsight here.

Regards,

-- 
Nicolas Goaziou                                                0x80A93738

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