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From: Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] emacs-26 ee512e9: Ignore buffers whose name begins with a space in save-some-buffers
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2017 09:54:37 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <874lruishe.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: jwv7ewqww69.fsf-monnier+gmane.emacs.devel@gnu.org

Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

>> (and pred
>>      (progn
>>        (set-buffer buffer)
>>        (and buffer-offer-save (> (buffer-size) 0))))
>
>> Unless a user has customized `save-some-buffers-default-predicate', PRED
>> is only t when Emacs is exiting.
>
> But it's also non-nil in some other cases (e.g. it was non-nil when
> the function was called as a part of running a command in PCL-CVS, and
> presumably the VC-Dir interface should do the same, where the pred` is
> used to only prompt saving of buffers within the relevant directory).

Hence my reluctance to go trampling on the logic! All kinds of packages
must make use of this behavior.

>> If we can come to a consensus about those two questions, it shouldn't be
>> hard to come up with a clean solution.
>
> How 'bout turning buffer-offer-save into a 3-value variable (instead of
> a boolean):
> - nil = as before (i.e. never)
> - t = as before (i.e. only when pred is non-nil and the buffer is not empty)
> - `always` = regardless of pred and buffer's size (i.e. always)

So like this?

(or
 (buffer-file-name buffer)
 (eq buffer-offer-save 'always)
 (and pred
      (progn
        (set-buffer buffer)
        (and buffer-offer-save (> (buffer-size) 0)))))

But think about it from the point of view of documentation: how do you
explain the interaction between `buffer-offer-save' and PRED?

"If b-o-s is t and PRED is t the buffer will be saved, unless b-o-s is
'always in which case it doesn't matter what PRED is, unless PRED is a
function in which case the only thing that matters is what that function
returns, so long as buffer has a file name."

I'm exaggerating for effect, but still. I still don't quite understand
the use of passing a boolean in for PRED.

Maybe we should start by writing the docs, then the code.




  reply	other threads:[~2017-09-22 16:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2017-09-19  2:44   ` [Emacs-diffs] emacs-26 ee512e9: Ignore buffers whose name begins with a space in save-some-buffers Stefan Monnier
2017-09-19  3:12     ` Eric Abrahamsen
2017-09-19 12:42       ` Stefan Monnier
2017-09-19 13:25         ` Kaushal Modi
2017-09-19 15:44           ` Eric Abrahamsen
2017-09-19 15:50             ` Kaushal Modi
2017-09-19 15:53             ` Stefan Monnier
2017-09-19 16:03               ` Eric Abrahamsen
2017-09-19 15:37         ` Leo Liu
2017-09-19 15:56           ` Stefan Monnier
2017-09-19 10:48     ` Kaushal Modi
2017-09-19 12:08       ` Stefan Monnier
2017-09-19 12:26         ` Kaushal Modi
2017-09-19 18:13           ` Eric Abrahamsen
2017-09-20  2:10             ` Kaushal Modi
2017-09-20  7:16               ` Andreas Schwab
2017-09-20 17:14               ` Eric Abrahamsen
2017-09-21  8:01                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-21 19:57                   ` Eric Abrahamsen
2017-09-21 20:10                     ` Kaushal Modi
2017-09-21 22:53                       ` Eric Abrahamsen
2017-09-22  6:54                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-22 15:52                       ` Eric Abrahamsen
2017-09-22 16:18                         ` Stefan Monnier
2017-09-22 16:54                           ` Eric Abrahamsen [this message]
2017-09-22 19:03                             ` Stefan Monnier
2017-09-22 23:27                               ` Eric Abrahamsen
2017-09-23  2:43                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-09-24 19:25                           ` Eric Abrahamsen
2017-09-24 19:29                             ` Stefan Monnier
2017-09-24 20:59                               ` Eric Abrahamsen
2017-09-22 17:21                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-09-22 17:57                           ` Eric Abrahamsen

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