From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Michael Heerdegen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: `thunk-let'? Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2017 16:20:58 +0100 Message-ID: <874lq0n8o5.fsf@web.de> References: <87infp9z6j.fsf@web.de> <87zi90eehg.fsf@web.de> <87o9ocd6s4.fsf@web.de> <83zi7wr6jc.fsf@gnu.org> <87k1z0csxa.fsf_-_@web.de> <83k1yzqshk.fsf@gnu.org> <87r2t7wc9d.fsf@web.de> <83d14rqjv8.fsf@gnu.org> <87a7zvvye9.fsf@web.de> <83375mr2da.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1510413713 24640 195.159.176.226 (11 Nov 2017 15:21:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2017 15:21:53 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: nicolas@petton.fr, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 11 16:21:49 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eDXbP-0005rM-4X for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 11 Nov 2017 16:21:47 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45947 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eDXbR-000642-7F for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 11 Nov 2017 10:21:49 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45027) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eDXar-00063w-7A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Nov 2017 10:21:14 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eDXam-0007rE-6E for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Nov 2017 10:21:13 -0500 Original-Received: from mout.web.de ([212.227.17.12]:64251) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eDXal-0007qn-SS; Sat, 11 Nov 2017 10:21:08 -0500 Original-Received: from drachen.dragon ([188.98.103.93]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb103 [213.165.67.124]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MhUfW-1eZ2iM1ICg-00MeJ8; Sat, 11 Nov 2017 16:21:00 +0100 In-Reply-To: <83375mr2da.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 10 Nov 2017 09:58:57 +0200") X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:TmIH8PqMw2ZBp0S9/oV/8qZe0AlvAApna1lkXYwbs8yPnzJlQgB 8DWliuGUMej9xFcVNkWfCzmz0+Bovd4J4PMx03bX6OaErQPxuwZXqSjmKZQ1+EgXkIt652r 4gFlj6YuuYzCOIJzGhdD8ziikce2bLqWpIhZm59GEmkNIh4Sw7yMYOrzJMFNDGJ0L7GkH3c Z5RxV8//ugQkMF1r9skrA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:OnKSpqDtPh0=:5vvDCPTGTROuB1q94GcP5m yg/PuoqeEFHItrE/F/pGeVZ1Cs/jLQnHwE7eV7GPWXXUIj/8h9/YBLPRnio1CzCnelQ3JBuLo +ZMl4dx0Z+NNw55HRY6M8BL5Cg2J4TuEK4qe6XPpKJuqEbfuxnsC38iRfVnL8mqeQO0Fi7qnz Yz+gYyoUZkPsluCjWXSQXc7Dq9+y8S5M51sADGIf+oa2tw6EeHH8J9H8+o+uaZCsn2FAhigdW 2iOzMs7U79lTkWJEiXYwnmseTJbFSzmNH0GEbJVr0xBv3B3/WK/Jb14F/H5y2p8TnrSMqzWG4 fNDC2mariu1mFu3fCOfk1oNbKxjyV2H5pIoseqvggJ6N1vgDYHxho/6NyBNBHE2DhQu4vqqTu g5yrCFj+v3Ue3FsbK2U02mZNDAphnAqcj2k6NyEBLt75bY6KwLolIB/wkZ2sIoKMFny+7hWsX hgqDFR4GFJx3ua6Bz9lx4wdsdCtCMQ4+B2eT/vk5n8SX2bAP3kRE6kuDksMSy+l56kQrNSQuL mYDIjn4+sKPOiTakZLprY6ZXD7fJz5NrhsHjIT4MUjbukvxnSEg1ihnV3ziXaa7LWEIBv/GHX VxQPU0/E+8qST6r6uHkBLl+5/6KTSDjIaMWlaAaj6rklEAulCidMJNe/HYKuWlo+a4hugOiuI pmlDCgbgv8swsoR3SkI41TaENMot/Lpbi8jQ8IF2qbuVNfaQHyWi5lgjuKTGyQHB6Gord+TKV xWFV5jL/7QEXqo4MdA/83F9s92HY3whDJ4caPRG7WE/YQLqYzAor1K87ySL7i4CpulKbW862 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 212.227.17.12 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:220077 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > > I'm not sure I fully get what "internal" means in this context... > > > > > > It means not intended for use outside of Emacs internals. > > > > But no doubt `when', for example, is used outside of Emacs > > internals...? > > 'when' is in subr.el, not in subr-x.el. And its well documented. Ok, then `when-let*'. It's surely useful not only in Emacs internals. Lot's of packages in Gnu Elpa use it. It seems that the only more or less "internal" functions in subr-x are those named "internal-*", and these are of the kind "helper function" as exist in most libraries - so their names are misleading. For example, `internal--build-bindings' is clearly a helper for `if-let*', barely useful for anything else, including other let-style macro definitions. FWIW, my impression was always that subr-x.el was thought as an extension library for subr.el, and for me, it kind of looks like that. Michael.