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X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c0c::22a X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:224311 Archived-At: martin rudalics writes: >> OK, is this normal? >> >> emacs -Q >> (modify-frame-parameters nil '((left . 0.0))) >> (frame-geometry) >> >> =3D> ((outer-position -20 . 188) (outer-size 1208 . 1226) >> (external-border-size 20 . 20) (outer-border-width . 0) >> (title-bar-size 0 . 70) (menu-bar-external . t) (menu-bar-size 1168 >> . 24) (tool-bar-external . t) (tool-bar-position . top) (tool-bar-si= ze >> 1168 . 42) (internal-border-width . 0)) >> >> The frame is visually flush with the left edge of the screen, but >> frame-geometry claims it=CA=BCs at -20 ? > > Is the left external border clearly visible? No, the left external border is very small. It=CA=BCs certainly not 20 pixels wide. >> For comparison, after toggle-frame-fullscreen >> >> ((outer-position 0 . 0) (outer-size 3840 . 2160) (external-border-size >> 0 . 0) (outer-border-width . 0) (title-bar-size 0 . 0) >> (menu-bar-external . t) (menu-bar-size 3840 . 24) (tool-bar-external >> . t) (tool-bar-position . top) (tool-bar-size 3840 . 42) >> (internal-border-width . 0)) >> >> So is this the window manager lying to us? This is with XWayland, I=CA= =BCll >> see if I can test under vanilla X. > > A fullscreen frame usually doesn't have external borders. Maximized > frames do but they are off-screen. So these values seem normal to me. OK. Robert