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From: Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com>
To: Phil Sainty <psainty@orcon.net.nz>
Cc: 31709@debbugs.gnu.org, Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
Subject: bug#31709: 27.0.50; Wishlist: Perhaps Emacs should load a file when getting a particular signal?
Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2018 18:24:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <874lih2oc1.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0c6052eff2cd93fe83c953b3c9d3d1da@webmail.orcon.net.nz> (Phil Sainty's message of "Wed, 06 Jun 2018 03:51:10 +1200")

Phil Sainty <psainty@orcon.net.nz> writes:

> On 2018-06-06 03:35, Phil Sainty wrote:
>> On 2018-06-06 02:38, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>>> Having a fixed file name in Emacs that is loaded by an external signal
>>> would be a terrible security risk, no?
>>
>> Bad Things could surely be done; but if the attacker has access to
>> send signals to the user's emacs process or write files in the user's
>> ~/.emacs.d directory, has a terrible security breach not already
>> occurred?  The notion of an attacker gaining access to a running Emacs
>> session is certainly bad, but I'm unsure whether the proposed idea
>> really worsens the risk in principle?
>
> In fact if you normally run emacs as a server you're opening up the
> same security risk, no?  An attacker who could send a signal to an
> emacs process can also run emacsclient to access an existing server;
> and I don't think we consider the practice of running an emacs server
> to be a terrible security risk.

What if this hypothetical emacs was deliberately started without a
server running, since it contains sensitive information? Starting a
server when receiving a signal has now opened up access to that emacs
where none existed before.

Robert





  reply	other threads:[~2018-06-05 16:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-04 11:29 bug#31709: 27.0.50; Wishlist: Perhaps Emacs should load a file when getting a particular signal? Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-06-04 12:27 ` Marcin Borkowski
2018-06-05 13:27   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-06-04 14:52 ` João Távora
2018-06-05 13:28   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-06-04 16:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-05 13:31   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-06-05 14:28     ` Phil Sainty
2018-06-05 14:38     ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-05 15:21       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-06-05 15:45         ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-05 16:20         ` Robert Pluim
2018-06-05 15:35       ` Phil Sainty
2018-06-05 15:51         ` Phil Sainty
2018-06-05 16:24           ` Robert Pluim [this message]
2018-06-05 16:36             ` Phil Sainty
2018-06-05 17:05               ` Phil Sainty
2019-09-21  8:19 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen

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