From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#24625: 26.0.50; Local variables list at beginning of a file Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2019 04:23:59 +0100 Message-ID: <874kz5om9c.fsf@marxist.se> References: <84int57upu.fsf@gmail.com> <87pni3vzzh.fsf@marxist.se> <847e44gir8.fsf@gmail.com> <83v9rm61b9.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="24723"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Marco Wahl , 24625@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 15 04:25:12 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iVSER-0006Gc-N8 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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d=marxist.se; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:References: In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=lmglOVDXeoYrw9zHamPvlxa/Vx0wEQdfyzhrNf5cerk=; b=lXINYGe3ZNMZw5vecp4NNVf/NP pDGgklw7J/vrePMnhscBxWxCA1ba7c/wqrQSi6Wh89Uc1KOdUta36qLaSf5S//Ojk3Wqrbx7gnWEJ oR94AKvEMRP+eRu4Ml6Ec81IR+ZFRH9evUJ3C/EoymYc5Sl/raZbrlx6ay4sLAlyFs0s=; Original-Received: from h-70-69.a785.priv.bahnhof.se ([155.4.70.69]:39062 helo=localhost) by host.gofardesign.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1iVSDJ-0003KL-OV; Thu, 14 Nov 2019 21:24:02 -0600 In-Reply-To: <83v9rm61b9.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 14 Nov 2019 15:21:30 +0200") X-OutGoing-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host.gofardesign.uk X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - marxist.se X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: host.gofardesign.uk: authenticated_id: stefan@marxist.se X-Authenticated-Sender: host.gofardesign.uk: stefan@marxist.se X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:171627 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> For people who want to keep the first line short this feature could >> help. >> >> Possibly of interest: >> >> My motivation asking for this feature was local variables at the bottom >> of outline/Org files. In my experience for those kind of files, which >> typically consist of some trees, it is rather difficult to keep >> something (here the local variables) at the bottom. Too easily a >> further tree gets appended at the end of the file or the trees in the >> file get sorted. On the other hand the top of those kind of files stays >> relatively static. I usually set up a header like the following at the end of the file: * org-mode configuration :noexport: #+STARTUP: content hidestars indent # Local Variables: # ispell-local-dictionary: "swedish" # End: That avoids accidentally exporting the header or moving it around. YMMV. > If this is for Org, perhaps Org could have its own private feature? Org already has this for various settings, but not for arbitrary Lisp variables. Perhaps someone could suggest to add missing options to the org mode developer. > In general, having the variables at the beginning will get in the way > of reading the file's contents by humans: you will first need to skip > the variables' section and wonder what does that do there. Agreed. Best regards, Stefan Kangas