From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Jorge P. de Morais Neto Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#39359: [patch] TUTORIAL: Be accurate about "buffer" vs "file"; capitalize Dired. Four other trivial TUTORIAL patches Date: Sun, 07 Jun 2020 15:01:29 -0300 Message-ID: <874krmwy9y.fsf@disroot.org> References: <878sgyx2xt.fsf@disroot.org> <83tuzm7rsd.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="83418"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 39359@debbugs.gnu.org, stefan@marxist.se To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 07 20:02:19 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jhzcg-000LbP-O2 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 07 Jun 2020 20:02:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54374 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jhzcf-0008Tw-QS for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 07 Jun 2020 14:02:17 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:51018) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jhzcQ-0008TW-9u for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Jun 2020 14:02:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:43285) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jhzcQ-0003hj-09 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Jun 2020 14:02:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jhzcP-0004ic-Tf for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 07 Jun 2020 14:02:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Jorge P. de Morais Neto Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 07 Jun 2020 18:02:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 39359 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 39359-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B39359.159155291718127 (code B ref 39359); Sun, 07 Jun 2020 18:02:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 39359) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Jun 2020 18:01:57 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54831 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jhzcK-0004iJ-Sn for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 07 Jun 2020 14:01:57 -0400 Original-Received: from knopi.disroot.org ([178.21.23.139]:35560) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jhzcI-0004i8-Gd for 39359@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 07 Jun 2020 14:01:55 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by disroot.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BDE555EA6; Sun, 7 Jun 2020 20:01:53 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at disroot.org Original-Received: from knopi.disroot.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (disroot.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2uLlrcBYqtT5; Sun, 7 Jun 2020 20:01:51 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=disroot.org; s=mail; t=1591552910; bh=dF2KCcBCv/NaRuzxKD0f67UEkAVplkkPzJj6H1vWSFk=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date; b=DaaKO/F0tqlH3WfaljDgec2cmYpTKUOYKuRuWYtQDUnN+WOkshDrO2Pt6zKP8Efei Z1+GmUHQUtEHmXSmffENdSL4e48Yqya5pylZ41pljy6osqg+cLaN68lePJ4PfFS89r XuGTprHResTd4xV2vWx1sBIyRuxqwOhCgr9dZgORmFv1La1gKNaM9eGtauTQWj64// gzGHnITfHNMZ90Mor/MR1urKB6kE78TGyFVcWuAmpByE7O7FBzw4R5M2zMdg0XOrwJ pLDkdTAyOwQB+fDxicaCBhcXeRBLhip+fNp82Lann+AltppRTAxtR9qFUvSlrcAzcb FBH1rY97PYN+w== In-Reply-To: <83tuzm7rsd.fsf@gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:181690 Archived-At: Em [2020-06-07 dom 19:40:50+0300], Eli Zaretskii escreveu: >> - For consistency with C-x C-f ("Find file") and C-x C-s ("Save file"), >> refer to C-x s as "Save some files". > > But that is inaccurate: "C-x C-f" indeed reads a file into a buffer, > but "C-x C-f" saves the _buffer_ into its file. "Save file" is not > what "C-x C-s" does, since the file is not saved anywhere. > > How about saying "Save some buffers to their files" instead? You mean like this? --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- diff --git a/etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL b/etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL index eb3acde9c0..227c13f3e3 100644 --- a/etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL +++ b/etc/tutorials/TUTORIAL @@ -612,11 +612,11 @@ but it also means that you need a convenient way to save the first file's buffer. Having to switch back to that buffer, in order to save it with C-x C-s, would be a nuisance. So we have - C-x s Save some buffers + C-x s Save some buffers to their files -C-x s asks you about each buffer which contains changes that you have -not saved. It asks you, for each such buffer, whether to save the -buffer. +C-x s asks you about each file-visiting buffer which contains changes +that you have not saved. It asks you, for each such buffer, whether +to save the buffer to its file. >> Insert a line of text, then type C-x s. It should ask you whether to save the buffer named TUTORIAL. @@ -660,8 +660,8 @@ as by a mail handling utility. There are many C-x commands. Here is a list of the ones you have learned: C-x C-f Find file - C-x C-s Save file - C-x s Save some buffers + C-x C-s Save buffer to file + C-x s Save some buffers to their files C-x C-b List buffers C-x b Switch buffer C-x C-c Quit Emacs @@ -1081,7 +1081,7 @@ corresponding command names (such as C-x C-f beside find-file). You can learn more about Emacs by reading its manual, either as a printed book, or inside Emacs (use the Help menu or type C-h r). Two features that you may like especially are completion, which saves -typing, and dired, which simplifies file handling. +typing, and Dired, which simplifies file handling. Completion is a way to avoid unnecessary typing. For instance, if you want to switch to the *Messages* buffer, you can type C-x b *M --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- Best regards, Jorge -- - - I am Brazilian. I hope my English is correct and I welcome feedback. - Free Software Supporter: - If an email of mine arrives at your spam box, please notify me.