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[109.13.143.200]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a12sm10611918wrv.41.2020.07.02.06.44.11 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 02 Jul 2020 06:44:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <837dvmxdqf.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 02 Jul 2020 16:12:24 +0300") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::334; envelope-from=kevin.legouguec@gmail.com; helo=mail-wm1-x334.google.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: No matching host in p0f cache. That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:252627 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > Development snapshots are just that: snapshots of the current > repository's master branch. As such, they are irrelevant to the issue > at hand, because we are talking about releases, not snapshots. My reasoning for suggesting snapshots went something like: 1. A lot of time passes between changes being committed, and users reporting regressions caused by these changes. 2. How could we tighten this feedback loop, so that we can spend less time gritting our teeth and waiting for bug reports during pretests? 3. If we offered development snapshots, maybe some users would feel adventurous enough to try them, and maybe some of them would even report bugs. 4. When we cut a release branch, we could feel more confident about the lack of regressions, because the most severe ones will have been caught thanks to snapshots. Granted, maybe the intersection between "wants the bleeding edge" and "won't run git pull" is an empty set, and snapshots would not bring significantly more exposure to the master branch =F0=9F=A4=B7 >> > I think it was 26.3, and the problem is not the decision, the problem >> > was how much time it took. Too much, IMO. >>=20 >> 25.3 was the "=E2=9A=A0=F0=9F=9A=A8 Red alert! Enriched Text is insecure= ! =F0=9F=9A=A8=E2=9A=A0" release > > Time flies; sorry for misremembering. It sure does; I had misremembered too and had to to a double-take :)