From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: A modern-mode? Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2020 17:18:01 +0200 Message-ID: <874knxsqc6.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87v9ge3tet.fsf@gkayaalp.com> <83sgbh7py4.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="27760"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: self@gkayaalp.com, "Alfred M. Szmidt" , akrl@sdf.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 16 17:19:19 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kIZDK-00075F-Uh for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 16 Sep 2020 17:19:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50322 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kIZDJ-0002Yp-Vk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 16 Sep 2020 11:19:18 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:59402) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kIZCU-0001ht-4n for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Sep 2020 11:18:26 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2]:48656) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kIZCR-0005KU-BN; Wed, 16 Sep 2020 11:18:25 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=ymknn4yaK9y0UJbakgtHwmSlhJxlGZtlpXcuuvlsueA=; b=Kfxtl9VxvwDZz57ik+aVc8PJaX tIUUuifOA4f6IXFEBCZcnKXC1Ot+Q5XpEVjhR+gZU17x0D6dAriML0JYNft8lPnNtiEyfv4QoYI8P x/pc+3LHZyAEXYTywqqHy6fy7F50ZSyR95KoeFjUVvRvecWVzHX/wddQKXWP4TOOi2wg=; Original-Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kIZC7-00063n-ET; Wed, 16 Sep 2020 17:18:09 +0200 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAFVBMVEUHBwZcW1suLi2f n6Dw8PCAfn7///9WvhGQAAAAAWJLR0QGYWa4fQAAAAd0SU1FB+QJEA8RE8Az4ykAAAGlSURBVDjL lZPBdoMgEEURmz2C2QNp91ZwX2XcJ2r//1c6Q6IZU7soC4+Hyxvem1Eh/rEKe7QrhfNaSMW2Qn46 qYWzjolKsGsdqSsmWKDJpTTJWCUJ8JVfvLfOs0rFGdr7iUpXe1t6fXlxK9vjVKfv4Q/Ql4eBhfSn Y1BM2I1DxSdG+HXaibwrX4p95GZg2n0tuQAkhYGV8DvFO+AaqZL1fAoiEoh41loy8Fy0P8PVNPp2 W1hbJJ3vYKiUnGKdWCsI0CVCfqDyCUoEDn2ZUEToQe2AyQbcCONy5WCMiYDGZ91wEGEiicKkbChU Cgw9rjVe0m/gjXJfCDQIxm7XkVuWDRcsaDZQA/T+jaIMFZ3Z+niOqbU1oKOBXA8bMCncsJEIeir1 7EnsOusjeU4EYFMs3eQUbqDEEdgSnrvJF3fgF/K2An/W9yEuOTq7pMiWAToCKbCJPECCJivVK8Af p0w1u2T9UNDQKczMFq7vBygS9OY5KiFDniBMPo5WMoW8C6C1ch4DB/EBvIf9HV3IX6PyOMmFATtn MCthoH3nOUwGQYkyiXWEP0OeatMUVlACAAAAJXRFWHRkYXRlOmNyZWF0ZQAyMDIwLTA5LTE2VDE1 OjE3OjE5KzAwOjAw/KiKGQAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTptb2RpZnkAMjAyMC0wOS0xNlQxNToxNzoxOSsw MDowMI31MqUAAAAASUVORK5CYII= X-Now-Playing: Neil Young's _Tonight's the Night_: "Borrowed Tune" In-Reply-To: <83sgbh7py4.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 16 Sep 2020 17:32:03 +0300") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2; envelope-from=larsi@gnus.org; helo=quimby.gnus.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: No matching host in p0f cache. That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:255892 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > Yes, let's find a different name for this. I'd object to calling it > "modern", because I disagree that vanilla Emacs isn't. I think "modern" implies that one day it won't be modern any more, so it's a fine name by me. But perhaps it should be more specific: `modern-2020-mode'. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no