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From: Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
To: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
Cc: philipk@posteo.net, spacibba@aol.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org,
	self@gkayaalp.com, arthur.miller@live.com, dgutov@yandex.ru,
	ghe@sdf.org, eliz@gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com
Subject: Re: Context menus and mouse-3       [was: Changes for emacs 28]
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2020 10:48:11 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <874knwalok.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1kIl44-0000Y2-CF@fencepost.gnu.org> (Richard Stallman's message of "Wed, 16 Sep 2020 23:58:32 -0400")

>   > > "Poor"? the below just says that other applications (which ones?) do
>   > > it slightly differently, that's all.  I don't see how what you say
>   > > justifies the "poor" part.
>
>   > Yes, this is subjective,
>
> The worst problem is, it is not concrete enough to be constructive.
> If someone says your program is "poor", what could you usefully do?
>
> Please be more specific when you criticize.

Constructively, I propose to include in Emacs a new mode
(with a name like 'modern-mouse-mode') where

- down-mouse-3 and mouse-3 pop up the context menu
  containing at least the items "Cut", "Copy", "Paste", "Undo", "Redo"
  (and only "Copy" when the buffer is in read-only mode);
- holding down the Shift key while using mouse-1 adjusts
  the already active region;
- dragging the active region moves it to the place
  where the mouse-1 was released;
- dragging the active region copies it to another place
  while holding down the Control key;
- holding down the Shift key while scrolling with mouse wheel
  scrolls the buffer horizontally;

>   >  but while I use the mouse in other apps,
>   > every time I try to use the mouse in Emacs, I can't make any sense of
>   > default mouse bindings mess,
>
> Which bindings do you find confusing?

This is just incompatibility between the currently active old mode
that follows what X applications do, and more modern mouse bindings
used nowadays in other applications.  So two separate modes are needed.



  reply	other threads:[~2020-09-17  7:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-14  3:06 Context menus and mouse-3 [was: Changes for emacs 28] Drew Adams
2020-09-14  6:11 ` Ergus
2020-09-14  6:28   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-14  6:48     ` Ergus
2020-09-14  7:49       ` tomas
2020-09-14  7:58         ` Thibaut Verron
2020-09-14  8:29           ` tomas
2020-09-14  9:03             ` Thibaut Verron
2020-09-14  9:12               ` Göktuğ Kayaalp
2020-09-14 11:37               ` tomas
2020-09-14 12:36                 ` Thibaut Verron
2020-09-14 15:59             ` Drew Adams
2020-09-14 15:12         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-14 15:47         ` Drew Adams
2020-09-14 20:54           ` tomas
2020-09-15  4:35     ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-15 13:11       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-19  7:47         ` Tak Kunihiro
2020-09-19  8:02         ` Tak Kunihiro
2021-07-11 23:38         ` Context menus and mouse-3 Juri Linkov
2021-07-12  1:25           ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-07-12 11:55           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-12 20:56             ` Juri Linkov
2021-07-13  0:19               ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-07-13 11:32               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-13 23:46                 ` Juri Linkov
2021-07-14  4:30                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-14 23:37                     ` Juri Linkov
2021-07-15  6:22                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-15 22:23                         ` Juri Linkov
2021-07-16  6:49                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-16 18:59                             ` Juri Linkov
2021-07-16 20:05                               ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-07-18  5:13                               ` Tak Kunihiro
2021-07-18 15:53                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-07-19 15:55                                   ` Juri Linkov
2021-07-19 16:37                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2021-07-20 20:52                                       ` Juri Linkov
2021-07-20 22:24                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2021-07-20 23:15                                           ` Juri Linkov
2021-07-21  4:39                                             ` Tak Kunihiro
2021-07-21  5:07                                               ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-07-21 12:45                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2021-07-21 17:26                                                 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-07-22  3:49                                                   ` Tak Kunihiro
2021-07-22  4:06                                                     ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-07-19 19:59                                     ` Ergus via Emacs development discussions.
2021-07-20 20:51                                       ` Juri Linkov
2021-07-12 22:32           ` Stefan Monnier
2021-07-12 23:56             ` Juri Linkov
2021-07-13  3:01               ` Stefan Monnier
2021-07-13 23:32                 ` Juri Linkov
2021-07-14  2:14                   ` Stefan Monnier
2021-07-14 23:32                     ` Juri Linkov
2021-07-15  1:18                       ` Stefan Monnier
2021-07-15 22:31                         ` Juri Linkov
2021-07-16 15:46                           ` Stefan Monnier
2021-07-16 18:50                             ` Juri Linkov
2021-07-16 19:25                               ` Stefan Monnier
2021-07-15  6:24                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-15 22:28                         ` Juri Linkov
2021-07-16  6:51                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-16 18:56                             ` Juri Linkov
2021-07-16 23:13                               ` Stefan Kangas
2021-07-17  6:22                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-17 21:46                                   ` Juri Linkov
2021-07-17  6:02                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-19 17:48                                 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-07-19 18:08                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-09-14 15:10   ` Context menus and mouse-3 [was: Changes for emacs 28] Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-14 16:42     ` Göktuğ Kayaalp
2020-09-14  8:15 ` Göktuğ Kayaalp
2020-09-14  8:33   ` tomas
2020-09-14 15:57   ` Drew Adams
2020-09-15 19:17     ` Juri Linkov
2020-09-15 20:33       ` Drew Adams
2020-09-15 22:47         ` Ergus via Emacs development discussions.
2020-09-16  0:29           ` Corwin Brust
2020-09-16  1:47             ` Drew Adams
2020-09-16  1:25           ` Drew Adams
2020-09-16  8:10             ` Ergus
2020-09-16 15:02               ` Drew Adams
2020-09-17  3:57               ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-17 20:10                 ` Ergus
2020-09-17 21:58                   ` Philip K.
2020-09-17  3:51             ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-16 14:13           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-16 19:41         ` Juri Linkov
2020-09-16  2:24       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-16 19:35         ` Juri Linkov
2020-09-16 23:10           ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-09-17  3:58           ` Richard Stallman
2020-09-17  7:48             ` Juri Linkov [this message]
2020-09-17 20:13               ` Ergus
2020-09-18  8:19                 ` Juri Linkov
2020-09-18 10:53               ` Stefan Kangas
2020-09-19  4:01                 ` Richard Stallman

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