From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: master 40e1174: Print a backtrace on unhandled errors in batch mode (Bug#44942). Date: Mon, 07 Dec 2020 16:42:19 +0100 Message-ID: <874kkxhbc4.fsf@gnus.org> References: <20201206164942.28653.54315@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <20201206164944.2472A205D7@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <87czzlluoo.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="2541"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Stefan Kangas , Emacs developers To: Philipp Stephani Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 07 16:46:43 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kmIio-0000XO-PQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 07 Dec 2020 16:46:42 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49856 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kmIim-0008ER-MY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 07 Dec 2020 10:46:40 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45800) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kmIeg-000524-Ps for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Dec 2020 10:42:27 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2]:56422) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kmIef-0001vl-6L for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Dec 2020 10:42:26 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=A426Ri8H6Vz6WhzuRFPrj9F124AGVxvVvImOmsclewI=; b=ZQLZnhCyeEd+5iV4hjkZbVLyQO fMbFG9ddfFARWDZCZkSFDREnx1O101c615PPlLjkV/2sWuVId5Ny0IFPJcPQSeFdNzmBG+cgYRLsu bIXEDCVOoth6xVepJUkFv3hlRpKHm1c0TvvEwS78xtQtUB3etROXZSPdRh8n3dCch/cs=; Original-Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kmIeb-00075o-1g; Mon, 07 Dec 2020 16:42:23 +0100 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAMFBMVEX4+Pj+/v78/Pzq 6eiBgX48Ojo/Pz9bW1qenZ3V1dUZGBclIyMgHx4PDQ7g39////97POhzAAAAAWJLR0QPGLoA2QAA AAd0SU1FB+QMBw8kEhAr8V8AAAEuSURBVDjL7ZI/S8NAFMBfOunWu8lsvWxu4gcQRFTQxaUK7o2T gxSsRDsbx26Cs1ru7CQ43Kv5AG12IdDZzc/gy59Lzia7CP4gQ96Pd7x/4LBm4F80Cc/8cM8SG9Aq 44y1oWS3e3xVCOHu97oFPgRayj7PEtwbSbzM6IvnMJRz/MheEw8KZ9IAe77G921Bon2K+s03gMM/ lT7KXlL4vFlV1epQIOK5eLXKFWwtD6QiqhqB+/AQ9YUoMnglhlKhHjWIAFGPOWsQk+QpTaiJyzAc FY3/FNd9xoURkf2U2qHBE531NMMzQDB9vMuXRRljq8EDpdXJIIPqOxsYYPVcoZSTZLFIEFFW03VW gkTGmBLHUyyhxbq3PYxxGRo7bWLrqwZdiX0by3fl1fn1o/5D4hsdleEG/6J9EAAAACV0RVh0ZGF0 ZTpjcmVhdGUAMjAyMC0xMi0wN1QxNTozNjoxOCswMDowMAsvqeoAAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6bW9kaWZ5 ADIwMjAtMTItMDdUMTU6MzY6MTgrMDA6MDB6chFWAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC X-Now-Playing: Alva Noto's _Xerrox Vol. 04_: "Xerrox Voyage" In-Reply-To: (Philipp Stephani's message of "Mon, 7 Dec 2020 16:28:39 +0100") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2; envelope-from=larsi@gnus.org; helo=quimby.gnus.org X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:260491 Archived-At: Philipp Stephani writes: > I don't expect that. Parsing the debug output of programs is always > rather brittle, and I wouldn't expect users outside of Emacs itself to > rely on a specific output format. I do -- people run Emacs for all sorts of reasons, and many use Emacs to process batch jobs. Changing the output in this drastic way will break stuff. So I'd rather have a command line switch to turn it on. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no