From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Context menus and mouse-3 Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2021 02:37:11 +0300 Organization: LINKOV.NET Message-ID: <874kcw28zk.fsf@mail.linkov.net> References: <20200914061111.3trmuzhdvv7nwdcc@Ergus> <87y2acv2tw.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83zguragqj.fsf@gnu.org> <87pmvnuyug.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83zguq8n5o.fsf@gnu.org> <87im1dydhx.fsf@mail.linkov.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="38689"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Cc: philipk@posteo.net, rms@gnu.org, spacibba@aol.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, arthur.miller@live.com, dgutov@yandex.ru, ghe@sdf.org, drew.adams@oracle.com To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 15 01:43:28 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1m3oXH-0009wj-NR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 15 Jul 2021 01:43:27 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37076 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m3oXG-0000Gz-O0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 14 Jul 2021 19:43:26 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:60254) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m3oVW-0006yd-G0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Jul 2021 19:41:38 -0400 Original-Received: from relay3-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.195]:50123) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m3oVU-0000Ky-UB; Wed, 14 Jul 2021 19:41:38 -0400 Original-Received: (Authenticated sender: juri@linkov.net) by relay3-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id ED7CE60002; Wed, 14 Jul 2021 23:41:30 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 14 Jul 2021 00:30:54 -0400") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.70.183.195; envelope-from=juri@linkov.net; helo=relay3-d.mail.gandi.net X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:271226 Archived-At: >> Context menus are useful everywhere, not just in special places. >> For example, selecting "Paste" from the context menu makes sense >> everywhere. > > Where in Emacs do we have context menus which include "Paste"? When the menu-bar is disabled, then C-down-mouse-3 pops up the global menu where "Edit" contains "Paste". When the menu-bar is enabled, then some modes include "Paste" (e.g. calculator-paste) in a buffer-local menu. And some modes like org-mode, flyspell-mode, etc. already redefine down-mouse-3 to pop up context menus. > I thought we were talking about existing menus popped by mouse-2 that I suppose you meant C-down-mouse-3? > you'd like to pop up with mouse-3. If this isn't the case, then what > menus are we talking about here? In particular, if you want to _add_ > menus which currently don't exist in contexts where we currently don't > offer menus, that could be an entirely new minor mode, and then the > conflict with current bindings of mouse-3 could be resolved as part of > that mode. It seems a new minor mode is unavoidable because when the user wants down-mouse-3 to pop up the context menu immediately, then for the best effect down-mouse-3 should be bound directly to the context-map, instead of sending the [context-menu] event. >> In the previous patch, the defcustom is named mouse-3-down-context-menu. >> When it's customized to nil, then only the current behavior is available >> with mouse-save-then-kill. When customized to t, then the context menu >> pops up immediately. > > I was thinking about something more flexible than an all-or-nothing > setting. A delay is not really intelligent enough, since it again is > a global value. I was thinking about something sensitive to the > context. The users who currently use mouse-3 to operate on the region might want to continue using it even on context-sensitive regions. For example, like in all browsers, down-mouse-3 in e.g. Info browser or eww, will show the menu with such items as "Backward" and "Forward". But when down-mouse-3 will be clicked on a link, it will display the context sensitive menu with "Follow" and "Open in New Window".