From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Add a configure option for NATIVE_FULL_AOT? Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2021 16:44:53 +0200 Message-ID: <874kbmbymy.fsf@gnus.org> References: <83bl5w70vw.fsf@gnu.org> <8735r8e0hn.fsf@gnus.org> <8335r86x66.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="32611"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: ulm@gentoo.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 18 16:46:23 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mGMpj-0008CU-2w for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 18 Aug 2021 16:46:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47270 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mGMph-0006YU-OU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 18 Aug 2021 10:46:21 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34988) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mGMoU-0005Tm-ID for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Aug 2021 10:45:06 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2]:56938) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mGMoS-00012k-0Z; Wed, 18 Aug 2021 10:45:06 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=ucxkyTMQpXOt7Qwr8neWsIKsGHhmmdC8drYLFqnfT4g=; b=q8i2i9V6v8ElQ9otb41fUfsqLr hD0LWlWpzsFMQFUPR+pNeJK+bxyb7E/dlBj9WJWlPdxzyv9fKykD27Ncemz3Nm1SPVRpah+xZpfd9 sb2ep8XgMsia8QqC2l/q6L8Otd6fm9HyKA8qS+ut7ENoSO3cd85SA0gvR7lzYOt7zaaU=; Original-Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mGMoL-0000ur-Op; Wed, 18 Aug 2021 16:45:02 +0200 In-Reply-To: <8335r86x66.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 17 Aug 2021 16:03:13 +0300") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2; envelope-from=larsi@gnus.org; helo=quimby.gnus.org X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:272576 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > My fear is that this change of concept will delay the release of Emacs > 28, because we are moving the carpet under our feet too close to > cutting the release branch, and will most probably bump into problems > we didn't see until now. Distributions are going to do NATIVE_FULL_AOT builds, and we'll get bug reports for any problems in this area in any case. So trying to "hide" the functionality just means that we get less testing. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no