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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:284199 Archived-At: Hello Stefan, On Mon 03 Jan 2022 at 02:02AM -05, Stefan Kangas wrote: > Sean Whitton writes: > >> On Sun 02 Jan 2022 at 05:14pm -05, Stefan Kangas wrote: >> >>> Drew Adams writes: >>> >>>> Customize should not write to your init file ... That's a bad Emacs >>>> design choice, IMO. It especially should not be the default behavior. >>> >>> +1, FWIW. >> >> Hmm, then where should it write to? > > IMO, something like > > (setq custom-file (locate-user-emacs-file "custom-file.el")) Hmm. I recently deleted something like that which had been in my init for years, because I looked it and couldn't come up with a reason why the code should be in a separate file. It seemed like pointless complexity. Why do you think it's better that way? -- Sean Whitton