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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:285118 Archived-At: Gregory Heytings writes: > I suggest to wait before such an (unlikely) hypothetical situation > happens before concluding that something which disfigures the File > menu must be done. While the scenario I presented is hypothetical, the problem itself is not. I spent a minute searching for a way to turn frame undeletion off after enabling it, to debug a input focus related problem on X. It turned out to be a bug in either GNOME Shell or XWayland, but at first it only manifested after I turned on frame undeletion. > And your hypothetical user can always do M-x undelete-frame TAB to see > that there is an undelete-frame-mode. What if he only knows to use `undelete-frame' from the menu bar?