From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Visuwesh Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#56510: Make some games obsolete (or just remove them from the menu) Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2022 09:15:07 +0530 Message-ID: <874jzn0zb0.fsf@gmail.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="39637"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 56510@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 12 05:46:13 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oB6qj-000A9w-8u for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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Mon, 11 Jul 2022 20:45:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Kangas's message of "Mon, 11 Jul 2022 22:06:36 -0500") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:236737 Archived-At: [=E0=AE=A4=E0=AE=BF=E0=AE=99=E0=AF=8D=E0=AE=95=E0=AE=B3=E0=AF=8D =E0=AE=9C= =E0=AF=82=E0=AE=B2=E0=AF=88 11, 2022] Stefan Kangas wrote: > Some of the games in Emacs look a bit dated. I put it to you that they > are not excellent promotion for Emacs, and that we are better served by > having fewer but better games. [ What exactly do you mean by "better games"? Do you mean to say that they should look visually interesting? ] > I suggest that we either remove some of them from the "Tools -> Games" > menu, or obsolete them outright. Here are the ones that I don't think > pass the bar: > > - 5x5.el > - blackbox.el > - gomoku.el > - pong.el > - solitaire.el I never properly checked out 5x5 but it looks like really interesting. I never understood blackbox however. Gomoku and solitaire are both standard puzzle games. I was very pleased to know that my childhood pastime was included in Emacs, I suggest we don't obsolete them. (Solitaire in particular is a very rewarding game.) Pong is unfortunately too choppy for me to play it.