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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:294605 Archived-At: Payas Relekar writes: > Stefan Monnier writes: > >> Payas Relekar [2022-09-02 20:23:38] wrote: >>> Just a thought. Since we already have IRC client in the core, it will be >>> nice to have a well-maintained Matrix client in core as well. >>> Any chance of that happening? Thoughts? >> >> I think adding packages to core Emacs is usually a bad idea unless it's >> a package contributing to the general infrastracture of ELisp (or if >> it's a package that's important for some ELisp package that's already in >> core). > > Fair. > >> I think the plan/intention is rather to move things out of core. >> To make up for it, the intention is then to provide a new mechanism to >> "bundle" some GNU ELPA packages into the "default" build of Emacs. > > Well, assuming that happens, can Ement be considered for default > bundling? I realised this phrasing is bit presumptuous and not very answerable. Please ignore if thats how it comes off :) > > Tangential, but I'm assuming you mean something in between current org/modus-themes > development model where upstream is periodically merged to core and > ELPA, but just to clarify, is that what you mean, or a built-in way to > generate custom Emacs 'distribution' of sorts, or something else? Thanks, Payas --