From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Protesilaos Stavrou Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Allowing rolling release packages on ELPA Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2022 07:47:48 +0300 Message-ID: <874jvvm9hn.fsf@protesilaos.com> References: <87o7u4p2t4.fsf@posteo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="6726"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: Philip Kaludercic , emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 24 07:38:23 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1omqAH-0001UF-7Q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 24 Oct 2022 07:38:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1omkUM-0003d9-Ik for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 23 Oct 2022 19:34:42 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1omSu0-00076J-JV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Oct 2022 00:48:00 -0400 Original-Received: from relay5-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.197]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1omSty-0004Ve-Jp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Oct 2022 00:48:00 -0400 Original-Received: (Authenticated sender: public@protesilaos.com) by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 36A551C0003; Sun, 23 Oct 2022 04:47:49 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protesilaos.com; s=gm1; t=1666500472; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=1GI/Qdp1TPehFiNEwgV3Snt3hqcHk6FA+6dhq/eWFqc=; b=Xfvo2EUCDjY9afgjX3BEq3Wb9HvJ14iKl0+meR7dDF8C/QIpgqT2fErJ2e3GG0fynwZEkQ F7mGnQxNmrhQ0OWV9HWkQ/sz3CSrIdz6qk3/i7zi0g0DNcQXGKG3qHNj3LoIgkiUq1yfoD JYXiTLHz9umSEj1oYYrrOUzDr7I2HJhxvWpN8Ut/e4RJqRSSSIhZ6s10MBgqXvyP7Edehu nTNrWg3ea6qnxVBcHqrW9Bv2imgwZyrZJF1/3ZAd6ABqxWWgTkEyzrmNNNxUhhKj3w9CzL /bO3/+qKmeQIWoa5Y2d5H4ch2rXgBMye6IwDPO7jGciTlO/ny5DIR2gDS14snQ== In-Reply-To: <87o7u4p2t4.fsf@posteo.net> Received-SPF: none client-ip=217.70.183.197; envelope-from=info@protesilaos.com; helo=relay5-d.mail.gandi.net X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:298329 Archived-At: > From: Philip Kaludercic > Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2022 10:31:35 +0000 > > I have heard from people who prefer a rolling release model for their > packages, and requested that their packages not be added for {Non,}GNU > ELPA if they would have to update the version header manually, > presumably on every commit. The following patch would enable ELPA > devel-like versioning on ELPA, if enabled with a :rolling-release > property. WDYT? Not a comment on the patch, but the idea behind it: I find the current arrangement between GNU ELPA and GNU-devel ELPA to give me the best of both worlds. Users who need rolling releases can opt in to the "devel" version: this has the upside of explicitly acknowledging that the package is not marked as "stable". The user can also arrange the 'package-archive-priorities' to choose gnu-devel by default. And there is also 'package-pinned-packages' in case they want a different archive for a given package. Example from my init file where I prioritise regular GNU ELPA: (setq package-pinned-packages '((cursory . "elpa-devel") (denote . "elpa-devel") (ef-themes . "elpa-devel") (fontaine . "elpa-devel") (lin . "elpa-devel") (logos . "elpa-devel") (pulsar . "elpa-devel") (tmr . "elpa-devel"))) -- Protesilaos Stavrou https://protesilaos.com