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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID fcdb28e61f91f2edefe677ea49cb53f0; Thu, 23 Feb 2023 13:08:10 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <4eb8c0f7-558a-db4d-1989-afba973c2327@gmx.at> (martin rudalics's message of "Thu, 23 Feb 2023 10:46:56 +0100") X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.21183 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:256455 Archived-At: martin rudalics writes: >>> So OT1H we really should set proper minimum size hints for the WM to >>> avoid that resize_frame_windows has to deal with frame sizes it >>> intrinsically cannot handle >> >> Now this is not possible, as the window manager (or any X client, for >> that matter) has free reign to do whatever it wants with another >> client's window. Unless of course X server security policy prevents it. > > If a window manager ignores our size hints, a user is free to choose one > which doesn't. xfwm here respectfully honors the size hints it gets > from Firefox or Thunderbird. Windows respects minimum size constraints > just as well, BTW. > > martin The problem here is that Emacs should not crash, no matter what some other X client, such as the WM, does. X programs are traditionally expected to not crash when run under a window manager that leaves features unimplemented, but to provide some kind of graceful fallback instead.