From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ihor Radchenko Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#61325: 30.0.50; Jokes in GNUS manual Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2023 14:05:33 +0000 Message-ID: <874jqve3te.fsf@localhost> References: <87ttzy7pg1.fsf@localhost> <87wn4u6xj0.fsf@yahoo.com> <873577570z.fsf@localhost> <875yc2s89n.fsf@yahoo.com> <87h6vkbgot.fsf@localhost> <87mt5aj626.fsf@localhost> <87cz65hkk1.fsf@yahoo.com> <87cz5kfza6.fsf@localhost> <87bkl4ozvr.fsf@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="15896"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Gregory Heytings , Richard Stallman , 61325@debbugs.gnu.org, stefankangas@gmail.com To: Po Lu Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 08 15:05:14 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pZuPp-0003td-Ay for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2023 15:05:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pZuPh-0001xG-CT; Wed, 08 Mar 2023 09:05:05 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pZuPf-0001pX-4c for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2023 09:05:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pZuPe-0006Hg-Qs for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2023 09:05:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pZuPe-0004ra-7L for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2023 09:05:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Ihor Radchenko Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2023 14:05:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 61325 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 61325-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B61325.167828425718622 (code B ref 61325); Wed, 08 Mar 2023 14:05:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 61325) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Mar 2023 14:04:17 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48101 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pZuOu-0004qI-Pa for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2023 09:04:17 -0500 Original-Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]:39673) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pZuOt-0004py-4R for 61325@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2023 09:04:15 -0500 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9DDB6240072 for <61325@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 8 Mar 2023 15:04:08 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1678284249; bh=5iGH8692IdbImT8W3jT4twRGqwErjDUSxvw0svhFCDg=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:From; b=pC+ONisbOCixvGDtd80aUt2gxUF6bn1ShLgO6xXuARxz/9CcrIe3WZCkfsCA0L54D CbMlsNLqfFIlfQAMcwqzBlMRyxsRud/4Gxy0YIVobd4DXdnchLe5uA28stBz1paS5O CEsgTTjfBSbOOFk/tzXLXhCRV01/nzBh9PiDX65eT1aLO2wS+vbPw87KqI/kywlaq4 9Pw6Q6R/bc5El+Zl6GlhMg6wRnIE6kDKkbGjDWZnroWMLSJGj+CJyv4RXAQKMb3uP1 jtTk4IMNkt+rVWJ1cscQ3zVUaYHPez9nGyjzEI9anEmpYMBKvqKFq/EtSe7zXE166C x+ZGf80NVevnA== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4PWvF349rqz9rxG; Wed, 8 Mar 2023 15:04:07 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <87bkl4ozvr.fsf@yahoo.com> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:257538 Archived-At: Po Lu writes: > Ihor Radchenko writes: > >> Though I do not see why replacing the risky topics with more neutral >> would hurt, given that the quality of a joke being changed does not >> degrade. > > Because it amounts to kow-towing in front of the mob of hypersensitive > people. Why is it a problem? If we can make the manual accessible to more people (hypersensitive or not) by a slight adjustment to the joke and without compromising the quality, why not? I am not talking about removing every joke. >> What is not clear for me is the word "occasional". How many jokes are >> considered occasional? I think that it is something worth clarifying in >> https://www.gnu.org/prep/maintain/maintain.html#Humor > > Whatever the author of the document felt like at the time it was > written, I think. My question was to clarify how we should read that document. The end goal is updating https://www.gnu.org/prep/maintain/maintain.html with the clarification. I assume that RMS is the right person to ask about such thing. -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at . Support Org development at , or support my work at