From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Philip Kaludercic Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Re Re: Why not include all ELPA packages in an Emacs release? 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:319730 Archived-At: Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez writes: >> >>> And while we're at it: There are sometimes requests for adding AUCTeX >> to >> >>> core. Do you have an opinion about that? >> >> >> >>I don't mind. But let's hear what others think. >> > >> > Well, AUCTeX was so feature-bloated that made me start using vanilla >> Emacs >> > and writing the things I really needed myself. So grateful it existed, >> > because it made my elisp evolve :-) >> >> This sounds like a LaTeX/AUCTeX-specific issue. IIUC, you prefer the >> built-in latex-mode that AUCTeX supersedes, right? Or what do you mean >> by bloated? >> > > Jup, that was a purely LaTeX issue. And yes, I didn't have time to learn > all the specifics > of AUCTeX and did some customisation + yasnippets to get my phD thesis > written. > At that time, a switch from MSWord/OpenOffice to LaTeX was churning all my > free CPU cycles, > because I had work and real life in parallel. [...] > WRT the package size, I wouldn't worry that much. Even a large package >> like AUCTeX is just under 10MB in my /elpa/ directory. The mean package >> side on ELPA is about 100-150KB. Packages like Debian that don't >> bundled .el sources (instead just using .elc) by default might be even >> better off. >> > > But just keep in mind that there are situations, where the platform must > deploy > Emacs on, might not be as relaxed WRT disk space... And it's not about a > specific > package, it's about a trickle of packages becoming a flood... I can imagine that a distribution like Debian can choose to distribute two package. The regular Emacs, that would bundle the selected ELPA packages and "emacs-minimal" that wouldn't (and perhaps even remove some more, like games or some stuff like that). >> My .2 cents >> >> -- >> Philip Kaludercic on peregrine >> > > Best, /PA -- Philip Kaludercic on peregrine