From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Daniel Colascione Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2024 08:13:58 -0400 Message-ID: <874j9ih721.fsf@dancol.org> References: <7133BE83-064B-43A4-A193-61376605222C@dancol.org> <055E6E92-6971-409E-A106-7E0C64FEF856@dancol.org> <87bk3r22x5.fsf@yahoo.com> <746FE961-37C5-4387-8274-7D90908EE2D6@dancol.org> <8734p3219c.fsf@yahoo.com> <867cefeo1w.fsf@gnu.org> <87o77qu6sg.fsf@no.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="11802"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Po Lu , acm@muc.de, stefankangas@gmail.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Jun 24 14:15:08 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sLibD-0002p4-7j for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 24 Jun 2024 14:15:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sLiaN-0005Ot-9K; Mon, 24 Jun 2024 08:14:15 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sLiaH-0005OR-KF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Jun 2024 08:14:11 -0400 Original-Received: from dancol.org ([2600:3c01:e000:3d8::1]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sLiaE-0000CG-O2; Mon, 24 Jun 2024 08:14:08 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=dancol.org; s=x; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:References:In-Reply-To: Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=cKbgSLgjoGxOyNAvl/Xsj5vkIExJp5SHLhfg5w/3l1Y=; b=BrP2xNeul4nxuBYIL7dV7S7nHa ksMykgYKGtk0AGIMpdrMJtuuF/E+9vJbuH5QW1YcBRvgbd00JWR/0VjfQ6G7eBLDIf+npYX2gB4vy EmPOdKiYIDY/MQ1U0I6C7ljs1rfcLw9qUmX9ZJhlqNZn3z4ZLhu205jO0nHyLnhN3GHRP4rYQAvTO G+sgB1RmJCRW3xm19phBuXNi7RsJrr2xFOX95RrWrC2stsaGJ8O7HwOHm4jAf/fBAATVUe6vbhuCw RYHH1YjwLOf96E7QWkAIdiKoBR9eMvHPEXkVAs/NY/1buTyuU0385+sHaPprnsfBRf5yv9WQEkzxp oIqKI84Q==; Original-Received: from 2603-9001-4203-1ab2-581d-4a29-3372-d073.inf6.spectrum.com ([2603:9001:4203:1ab2:581d:4a29:3372:d073]:32778 helo=localhost) by dancol.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1sLia8-0000Uz-E6; Mon, 24 Jun 2024 08:14:00 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87o77qu6sg.fsf@no.lan> (Gregor Zattler's message of "Mon, 24 Jun 2024 09:41:19 +0200") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2600:3c01:e000:3d8::1; envelope-from=dancol@dancol.org; helo=dancol.org X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:320599 Archived-At: Gregor Zattler writes: > Hi Eli, emacs developers, > * Eli Zaretskii [2024-06-23; 17:22 +03]: >> Now let's >> hear from others, and please leave it to the Emacs maintainers to >> decide what to do with this after we've heard enough opinions. > > On todays big displays I often have more > than two windows in my only emacs frame. > Other solutions like window-numbers did > not stick with me. I use the > windmove-{up,down,left,right} commands > all the time. > > Since I use more than two windows and at > the same time I'm not able to control > the placements of windows, I value > winner-mode very much. But because of > the more involved key binding I use it > not as often as would actually be helpful. > > I bound the windmove movements to > H-. Since I bound H to the > Caps Lock key this is convenient for me. > > I bound winner-{undo,redo} to > C-H-{left,right} for symmetry but forget > that key binding again and again. That's why I bind C-x 4 / to winner-undo. It creates a nice symmetry with regular undo.