From: Mario Lang <mlang@delysid.org>
Cc: Nic <nferrier@tapsellferrier.co.uk>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: A plea for dynamically loadable extension modules
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 16:40:36 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <873cgohycb.fsf@lexx.delysid.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3F27D535.9070702@gnu.org> (Jason Rumney's message of "Wed, 30 Jul 2003 15:24:53 +0100")
Jason Rumney <jasonr@gnu.org> writes:
> Mario Lang wrote:
>> I do not fully understand this. If the use of
>> non-free code in Emacs is explicitly forbidden, what is the problem then?
>> If someone would use a dynamic loader extention to integrate
>> commercial code with Emacs, he would just violate the license.
>
> Allowing dynamic linking makes it easier for the end-user to violate
> the license, perhaps unwittingly, while the distributer of the linked
> module might technically escape from any wrongdoing since they are not
> doing the linking.
>
> But I think the specific change that the objections were raised about
> was a general dynamic linking mechanism that would allow Emacs to link
> to any library. There is another type of dynamic linking, where
> linked modules would need to conform to an Emacs-specific interface.
I was not refering to a generic FFI, I was refering to
the second case you mentioned, an extention which required
linked modules to be specially written for Emacs.
Quoting Dave's mail to g.e.sources from 10 Apr 2002 23:22:27 +0100:
"This patch for Emacs 21.1 basically extends `load' to allow loading
compiled C modules and provides a script to build them."
It seems clear to me according to the attached REAMDE that
this extention does not provide a generic FFI.
So I think the point you raised above is not valid here.
> Then only Emacs-specific modules could be linked to Emacs. It would then
> be much easier to tell developers of non-Free modules that linked to
> Emacs to make their code Free, since they could not claim that their
> module was exempt from the GPL because it was designed to link with 'Y',
> not with Emacs.
Exactly. The patch from Dave satisfies the mentioned
properties AFAICS.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-07-30 14:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-07-30 12:16 A plea for dynamically loadable extension modules Mario Lang
2003-07-30 12:42 ` Nic
2003-07-30 13:13 ` Kenichi Handa
2003-08-01 2:20 ` Richard Stallman
2003-07-30 13:43 ` Mario Lang
2003-07-30 14:24 ` Jason Rumney
2003-07-30 14:40 ` Mario Lang [this message]
2003-07-30 15:25 ` Paul Jarc
2003-08-01 2:20 ` Richard Stallman
2003-08-01 15:44 ` Paul Jarc
2003-08-04 0:08 ` Richard Stallman
2003-07-30 19:02 ` Kevin Rodgers
2007-08-17 21:30 ` Leo
2007-08-19 0:45 ` Richard Stallman
2007-08-19 1:33 ` Leo
2007-08-19 3:22 ` dhruva
2007-08-19 7:59 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-08-19 12:51 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2007-08-19 13:06 ` David Hansen
2007-08-19 22:30 ` Richard Stallman
2007-08-19 22:31 ` Richard Stallman
2003-07-31 4:10 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2003-07-31 7:56 ` David Kastrup
2003-07-31 9:59 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2003-07-31 18:57 ` Alex Schroeder
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