From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tim X Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: How old are Emacs users? Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 10:08:20 +1000 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <873b2mvfuz.fsf@lion.rapttech.com.au> References: <87bqhd4swc.fsf@MagnumOpus.khem> <854pn4nvoh.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87ps5rv5ei.fsf@lion.rapttech.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1177634147 26355 80.91.229.12 (27 Apr 2007 00:35:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 00:35:47 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 27 02:35:44 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HhER5-0006RD-05 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 Apr 2007 02:35:43 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HhEWr-0003tl-LN for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 26 Apr 2007 20:41:41 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newshub.stanford.edu!newsfeed.gamma.ru!Gamma.RU!news3.cnt.ru!sn-xt-sjc-04!sn-xt-sjc-07!sn-post-sjc-02!sn-post-sjc-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.95 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:a3q72VcyF5ZK4oHtDo2EJvWSb3Y= Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Original-Lines: 45 Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:147640 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:43243 Archived-At: Klaus Straubinger writes: > Tim X wrote: > > [startup settings in X resources] >> I think its easier, clearer and faster than writing bits of elisp to >> set the default frame, the initial frame and then turn off toolbar >> etc. > > I don't find it easier to maintain settings in two different places, > with totally different syntaxes, where one of them is operating-system > dependent. And why is that clearer? > > Emacs settings should be in the Emacs initialization file, in my > opinion. > Fine and your welcome to disagree. I just fine five or so lines of the form Emacs.geometry: 80x55 Emacs.toolbar: 0 etc simpler than having to have (setq initial-frame-alist '((top . 1) (left . 1) (width . 80) (height . 55))) (setq default-frame-alist '((top . 1) (left . 1) (width . 80) (height . 55))) plus you still get the resize flicker etc, which you don't get if you put things in xresources. Of course, everyones milage differs. I don't work on multiple platforms, so having all my X stuff in xresources is both convenient and consistent for me. If I also ran on Windows, maybe I'd do it differently (though I expect you wold need different settings anyway). Tim -- tcross (at) rapttech dot com dot au