From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tim X Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Why is MIME hard? Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 17:03:53 +1000 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <873awum206.fsf@lion.rapttech.com.au> References: <1190902460.055800.73670@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com> <87r6kg8eq1.fsf@lion.rapttech.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1191310863 7651 80.91.229.12 (2 Oct 2007 07:41:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 07:41:03 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 02 09:41:00 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IccNC-0006VD-9g for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 02 Oct 2007 09:40:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IccN7-0003M2-Sa for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 02 Oct 2007 03:40:49 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.aset.psu.edu!news.glorb.com!sn-xt-sjc-04!sn-xt-sjc-06!sn-post-sjc-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:kuWDoTvkkayxh2Yray3oB7NI/vk= Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Original-Lines: 46 Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:152528 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:48035 Archived-At: Reiner Steib writes: > On Sun, Sep 30 2007, Tim X wrote: > >> Recently, I have had problems with Apple mail attachments, but they >> appear to be doing some strange stuff with their attachment handling >> (it is embedded inside the html part of the mail message - so if >> your configured like me to prefer the text version, you can't easily >> access the attachment (this is fixed in dev VM)). > > Are you talking about attachments (e.g. images) inside > multipart/related MIME parts? If so, what Apple mail is doing is > correct. Cf. `gnus-mime-display-multipart-related-as-mixed' in Gnus: > > ,----[ (info "(gnus)MIME Commands") ] > | `gnus-mime-display-multipart-related-as-mixed' > | Display "multipart/related" parts as "multipart/mixed". > | > | If displaying "text/html" is discouraged, see > | `mm-discouraged-alternatives', images or other material inside a > | "multipart/related" part might be overlooked when this variable is > | `nil'. *Note Display Customization: (emacs-mime)Display > | Customization. > `---- > The attachments I was referring to in my case were word documents. From memory, they were not multipart/related. I'm no expert on the MIME standard, but various groups I asked this question on and posted examples said that what Apple Mail was doing was not forbidden by the standard, but it was an unusual interpretation. >From memory (and its been a while since I looked at one of these messages, so I could be wrong), the atachment was inside the text/html part and was not marked as multipart/alternative. I did try opening it with gnus, but this failed. I also tried it with mutt, but that failed as well. gmail was able to give me the attachment. Note however, as I don't normally use gnus for mail, the inability of gnus to access the attachment could easily be due to mis/lack of ocnfiguration. Tim -- tcross (at) rapttech dot com dot au