From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Amy Templeton Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs bindings in other programs Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:16:39 -0400 Message-ID: <873avrxi7s.fsf@gmail.com> References: <1193416413.534581.16220@v3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1193789751.765503.186620@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com> <9qodefybby.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1193854499 6848 80.91.229.12 (31 Oct 2007 18:14:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 18:14:59 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 31 19:15:01 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1InI5Y-0004V2-AS for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 19:14:48 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1InI5O-0005yT-GM for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:14:38 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1InI40-0004Tm-If for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:13:12 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1InI3z-0004Rc-I3 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:13:11 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1InI3z-0004RQ-76 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:13:11 -0400 Original-Received: from wx-out-0506.google.com ([66.249.82.229]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1InI3z-00064e-0C for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:13:11 -0400 Original-Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s7so279896wxc for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:13:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:to:subject:references:from:x-now-playing:x-antipastobozoticataclysm:face:date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=VHUb82NaetMqarbTCfcRyIQmhnwrqE0pN2K+VG9sL2A=; b=AMAUpx2bQO5lCE17nlQ1ZkKPvXvi6O06MhviElQDRuSHlTv5nAbldm0ZsO7GmEPjWl94GkNGyoOhRa7P6LgemByVtDxddXoL7RzC9eDLL9uryan27/DMfJhjqAzZg6BWGGRVQBPQ4UOCEEJw4rUwEo5GmB1oIuHIKE0W2R+eJRY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:to:subject:references:from:x-now-playing:x-antipastobozoticataclysm:face:date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; b=hI/ntfPTvJqHQF19zHrzB+vODOkw3j7MdhcXKelxrGCHQHh7ylCmq0r7nQFLqaHQF0T3CMhXLP6KYQwoRKZPlEMzF49bPcXBBvOzq89/qVV4lKVR1YDQowKVhDiGu+zdixEk4Y77Xj5YR0oxTN/BAaDC/1OZwEcmZIBMnOe4s4U= Original-Received: by 10.90.93.6 with SMTP id q6mr6750976agb.1193854389737; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:13:09 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from localhost ( [132.162.252.118]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h27sm1205469elf.2007.10.31.11.13.08 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:13:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Now-Playing: Indigo Girls - Three Hits X-Antipastobozoticataclysm: Bariumenemanilow Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAFVBMVEUAAAAAAANaaXzP4O+c rcAAAQQOExuRlO0xAAACKElEQVQ4jW1UQXKkMAw0U8We4cCeN8b2A5ArD7CVOYNr5PPEwfz/CStj hkoyowNFqa1Wqy0Q4hFNT0N/X8TvoBLp7QmgmOO2SZqF6L/nW0qIaN1Gyw+g5tEiGq7puuYkCugt SrNJpYmWlo78kEaLTspMcZPc6a17FCg+rmllWTpcc5SHtiYgui3TTcecgiQKugJRgWdqWvXtI5iY ua5Kih4cLcOS8tdH0At9XecHYIuWRW5erxRX0AdwA5sXBlICI2mFiaqqYQSrozQklQ3XAHAwicHj RCvrQj+teizlhyg+Q8opZb2dEoDLlaoNFjUpqTwicKDNtJe0K4CODBQbATyANfMJBIfFRg97kb1X tZblO2VUASxDeFTcECSy38zly3G33+M+H6B0Ksmju6699won0aXgkQUDZJq3Khf4NpTbkrcewftM f80xh3V8fbLI4i785qqqiDChlAn9Pog16V6XgRjg+Qyrgh3RVJeruJuQp+D94af1U553oP1iiRsz TWhZMozse390Z3svx3AKjJIVEDSC039c8cqZaHgtjr1iG/1VFbXlLhLRfG46snl7TBQeF8vR8wLY avgUVT6BXgxxZJcUA++81F1/AoWM+bkGr2zt8P37MIqtLFtB4ke0FCWPbn/n2ZdFjO6y6uWkPxvR xf6Lz4AQ3Ty+N0MnnqJvL1M7P+dLjPfXQLvp5lWemi19Nt1zl6WNRr7m4m+KfwIvu8xRyvr6H1c0 rEpGcjoCAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC In-Reply-To: <9qodefybby.fsf@aquin.mat.univie.ac.at> (Martin Rubey's message of "31 Oct 2007 08\:47\:45 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/23.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:48946 Archived-At: Martin Rubey > John writes: > > I know what you mean. Frequently I go from Emacs to, say, Firefox, and > > accidentally hit Emacs keys causing FF to try and print pages, open > > new windows, select all, and so on. I'd highly recommend Firemacs, which sets up (customizable) Emacs-like keybindings for Firefox. I'd also recommend Conkeror for a more extreme approach. And for editing textboxes, catching mailto: links, looking at page source, etc., MozEx allows you to use an external program of your choice (such as emacsclient) to do these tasks and more. Also, if you like keyboard navigation but Conkeror is too much for you (unfortunately, since many extensions are written such that they only work with the default Firefox "chrome," which Conkeror takes the place of, many extensions do not play nicely with it), you might also like Hit-a-Hint. > What happens to me all the time is that I hit C-x b and expect emacs switch to > the dvi or pdf viewer, or konqueror or whatever, or, if in such an application, > switch back to emacs... For DVI, PS, and PDF, there's always the new doc-view code, which I've found *very* useful. > I'd really love to see my x-applications "live" in an emacs buffer, but I > was told that that's difficult. On the other hand, I saw such an item on > the emacs ToDo list, so maybe there is hope. You might like Ratpoison or StumpWM. They're tiling, keyboard-driven window managers influenced by Emacs and GNU Screen. StumpWM even has an optional mode-line, and is *very* customizable because it is written in common lisp. Anyway, just two cents. Amy -- Suspicion always haunts the guilty mind. -- Wm. Shakespeare