From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bastien Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: recenter-top-bottom Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:01:41 +0000 Message-ID: <873avb39e2.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1194868922 4337 80.91.229.12 (12 Nov 2007 12:02:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 12:02:02 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Drew Adams" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 12 13:02:07 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IrXzQ-0003sQ-NQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:02:04 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IrXzE-0007cG-Ig for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 07:01:52 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IrXz9-0007ah-K0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 07:01:47 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IrXz7-0007Yl-D7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 07:01:46 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IrXz7-0007Yi-9I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 07:01:45 -0500 Original-Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.170]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IrXz6-0002UH-IT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 07:01:44 -0500 Original-Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id a2so766387ugf for ; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 04:01:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:received:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:user-agent:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type:sender; bh=wi65wE5dL7lN2TpGMQwHQ395uzlWDt+MB+W+yDuD5L8=; b=dyABVIZ01pm5ey+lNv+UtfvWcVCmbZzgFEVE57P0tKs6FkWI4pN7qNj91Ae2rKNyZAZsVWpvhzDCtjv1c7VJvv8KmxsMhB/Mc8I8Jz1QBHEOEOSDYUpGBuk1c4Lbh4TA0gVgpKfuxcJwE+W7VjB/QSa0OkRIWPQklpURsRzlc3c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=received:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:user-agent:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type:sender; b=Rh/Rhttnd67enNzd64EeNZpZ4S799iCNbJQh2ClIjgknpY3Z/3Xthaj68yvSvdsFNce3f4nGYJzuh64c1+3FR/ieVHmySZbXDUc+pMw0XvGeP2HUnEgW6pJYlIDm8CqjiuKUS/edPYTez5j5kE3hTV+ioLkidcXkn2F5iT0Fttg= Original-Received: by 10.66.239.2 with SMTP id m2mr85703ugh.1194868903523; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 04:01:43 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from bzg.ath.cx ( [81.99.213.34]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u6sm11394185uge.2007.11.12.04.01.40 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 12 Nov 2007 04:01:41 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by bzg.ath.cx (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 135FD1575BA; Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:01:41 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Mon, 12 Nov 2007 00:33:05 -0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110007 (No Gnus v0.7) Emacs/23.0.0 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:83045 Archived-At: "Drew Adams" writes: > So, for me, the window point being near the middle or at the middle is > the same goal. Why is it important for you to move the window point > precisely to the center (from nearby)? Because it would surprise me otherwise, and I would be surprised that other users wouldn't be surprised by this. As I said, I mentionned a habit of mine, but I guess for command like C-l we all share the same background of fundamental habits. > (You can still do that, but `C-u C-l' is not as handy, if you want > such precision often.) Yes. Again, I am just trying to make my point very clear so that other users thinking the same can say: I like recenter-top-bottom but I also expect the point to jump to the center when it's nearby, so I prefer recenter-top-bottom #2 over #1. > It sounds like that is what you prefer. I have no idea what most > people prefer - I was guessing that they would prefer what I proposed, > but life can be full of surprises. So we should spare us Emacs specific surprises :) Lets give time to people to see what they think. > Sure. Anyway, as I said, I don't have a preference for Emacs about > this. I use this as a personal preference, and I don't care whether it > becomes the default behavior or is even added to Emacs as an option. I > am curious about the range of opinion though. Note that it is much easier to have an "opinion" on C-l than to have one on whether Rimbaud should have delayed his retirement. Much easier, but much also. -- Bastien