From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: desktop.el: autosave? Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2007 01:41:08 +0200 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <873augwvzf.fsf@jurta.org> References: <8763zjfe0v.fsf@jurta.org> <87mysridxt.fsf@jurta.org> <47550419.2080503@gmx.at> <47566942.9090208@gmx.at> <87d4tk22dz.fsf@jurta.org> <47572FA4.4080207@gmx.at> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1196898248 941 80.91.229.12 (5 Dec 2007 23:44:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 23:44:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: martin rudalics Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 06 00:44:16 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1J03uX-0005ge-W1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 06 Dec 2007 00:44:14 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J03uH-0003cW-Cb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 05 Dec 2007 18:43:57 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1J03uC-0003bJ-Cl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Dec 2007 18:43:52 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1J03uB-0003aW-Mo for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Dec 2007 18:43:52 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J03uB-0003aM-JO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Dec 2007 18:43:51 -0500 Original-Received: from relay03.kiev.sovam.com ([62.64.120.201]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1J03u8-0008TB-31; Wed, 05 Dec 2007 18:43:48 -0500 Original-Received: from [83.170.232.243] (helo=smtp.svitonline.com) by relay03.kiev.sovam.com with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1J03u4-0006Qp-0u; Thu, 06 Dec 2007 01:43:46 +0200 In-Reply-To: <47572FA4.4080207@gmx.at> (martin rudalics's message of "Thu, 06 Dec 2007 00:09:24 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Scanner-Signature: 88f972a75cd389d721acc69b695bb680 X-DrWeb-checked: yes X-SpamTest-Envelope-From: juri@jurta.org X-SpamTest-Group-ID: 00000000 X-SpamTest-Header: Not Detected X-SpamTest-Info: Profiles 1857 [Dec 05 2007] X-SpamTest-Info: helo_type=3 X-SpamTest-Info: {HEADERS: header Content-Type found without required header Content-Transfer-Encoding} X-SpamTest-Method: none X-SpamTest-Rate: 19 X-SpamTest-Status: Not detected X-SpamTest-Status-Extended: not_detected X-SpamTest-Version: SMTP-Filter Version 3.0.0 [0255], KAS30/Release X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: FreeBSD 4.7-5.2 (or MacOS X 10.2-10.4) (2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:84760 Archived-At: >>>Wouldn't it be sufficient to have one idle timer which triggers >>>auto-saving only if some timeout has elapsed since the last auto-save >>>of the desktop? >> >> It seems this is not possible with idle timers because they use timeout >> elapsed since the last user input, not the last time they run. > > Ahh no. I meant using an extra variable which records the last autosave > date. Whenever the routine triggered by the idle timer detects that the > period (one hour ...) has elapsed (by comparing that variable's value > with the present time) it does autosave and reset that variable. This > would only fail when an idle time starts before the autosave timeout has > expired and terminates long after that. Yes, this is not a reliable solution since an idle timer may fail to run at the requested time. I think your first idea is better. I wonder why standard timers don't do something like that: run a function after a long timeout (e.g. several minutes) but only if Emacs is idle for a few seconds. This looks like an useful behavior. -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/