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From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>
To: "Martin Pool" <mbp@sourcefrog.net>
Cc: Jonathan Lange <jml@mumak.net>, Jason Earl <jearl@xmission.com>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs Bazaar repository
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:36:21 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <873aqtuasq.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e01316480803132003g115bf832x8de74071e5dcdf7e@mail.gmail.com>

Martin Pool writes:

 > I believe the main problem is that we are processing the whole graph
 > to work out which revisions merged which others.

What does this mean?  That you can avoid pulling patches that cause
conflicts if they've already been applied?  But that's not terribly
interesting in most logging or mass download applications.

While I quoted Hoare on the root of all evil elsewhere, and continue
to take that as my default position, these numbers are uncomfortable.
I don't care how cold the CPU cache is, I don't want an attempt to
access a non-existent local repo to take 10s.  Nor should a
disk-to-disk copy of a 400MB directory tree take 23.5m.  The partial
clone times are heartening, although it's hard to guess what they
mean in terms of throughput.

# Initial one-branch clone.
$ time bzr clone http://bzr.notengoamigos.org/emacs/trunk/ earl-bzr
Branched 87515 revision(s).                                                     

real    101m35.490s	user    28m16.698s	sys     2m7.827s

# Clone from a local standalone branch into a shared repo.
$ time bzr clone ../earl-bzr trunk
Branched 87515 revision(s).                                                     

real    23m27.626s	user    13m57.869s	sys     1m12.516s

# Command line typo on a local URL, bzr figures it out in 10s.
$ time bzr branch EMACS_22_BASE
bzr: ERROR: Not a branch: "/Users/steve/Software/Emacs/emacs-bzr/EMACS_22_BASE/".

real    0m10.183s	user    0m0.457s	sys     0m1.361s

# Command line typo on a remote URL, bzr figures it out in 3.5s.
$ time bzr clone http://bzr.notengoamigos.org/emacs/EMACS_22_BASE
bzr: ERROR: Not a branch: "http://bzr.notengoamigos.org/emacs/EMACS_22_BASE/".

real    0m3.427s	user    0m0.499s	sys     0m1.142s

# Command line typo on a remote URL, bzr figures it out in 2s.
$ time bzr clone http://bzr.notengoamigos.org/emacs/branch/EMACS_22_BASE
bzr: ERROR: Not a branch: "http://bzr.notengoamigos.org/emacs/branch/EMACS_22_BASE/".

real    0m1.777s	user    0m0.480s	sys     0m0.995s

# A partial clone into the shared repo.
$ time bzr clone http://bzr.notengoamigos.org/emacs/branches/EMACS_22_BASE
Branched 83329 revision(s).                                                     

real    4m47.853s	user    2m20.361s	sys     0m25.168s

# A second partial clone into the shared repo.
$ time bzr clone http://bzr.notengoamigos.org/emacs/branches/lexbind      
Branched 48705 revision(s).                                                     

real    11m18.166s	user    3m25.059s	sys     0m33.614s






  reply	other threads:[~2008-03-14  5:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 236+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-12 23:41 Emacs Bazaar repository Jason Earl
2008-03-13  1:48 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-13  1:52 ` dhruva
2008-03-13  2:26   ` Bastien
2008-03-13  2:28   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-13  3:12     ` dhruva
2008-03-13  4:06 ` Karl Fogel
2008-03-13  4:11   ` Jonathan Lange
2008-03-29  1:00     ` Xavier Maillard
2008-03-13 15:30   ` Karl Fogel
2008-03-13 15:58     ` dhruva
2008-03-13 16:50     ` Jason Earl
2008-03-13 20:18     ` How to spell "commit" [was: bikeshedding bzr (or similar) :] Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-03-13  4:09 ` Emacs Bazaar repository Karl Fogel
2008-03-13  4:15   ` Jonathan Lange
2008-03-13  4:30     ` Jonathan Lange
2008-03-14  1:11       ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-03-14  1:51         ` Jason Earl
2008-03-14  5:10           ` Jonathan Lange
2008-03-13  9:58     ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-13 22:13       ` Jonathan Lange
2008-03-14 10:27         ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-14 10:36           ` David Kastrup
2008-03-13  5:08   ` Jason Earl
2008-03-13 10:39   ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-03-13 14:45     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-13  4:19 ` Eric Hanchrow
2008-03-13  5:20   ` Jason Earl
2008-03-13  8:04     ` dhruva
2008-03-13  9:04       ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2008-03-13  9:41         ` David Kastrup
2008-03-13 12:08           ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2008-03-13 23:46       ` Jonathan Lange
2008-03-14  2:52         ` dhruva
2008-03-14  3:00           ` Jason Earl
2008-03-14  3:03           ` Martin Pool
2008-03-14  5:36             ` Stephen J. Turnbull [this message]
2008-03-14  7:03               ` Martin Pool
2008-03-15  4:44                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-03-14 10:30         ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-14 15:02         ` Giorgos Keramidas
2008-03-13 11:20     ` James Westby
2008-03-13 16:37       ` Jason Earl
2008-03-13  7:43 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2008-03-13  8:49   ` Jason Earl
2008-03-13  9:07     ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2008-03-13 13:11     ` Aaron Bentley
2008-03-13 11:43 ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-13 11:55   ` David Kastrup
2008-03-14  9:58     ` Matthieu Moy
2008-03-14 10:42       ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-14 12:24         ` Matthieu Moy
     [not found]         ` <8562053f49b38b1584b86e1e4d1ec6e6, vpqbq5htrwx.fsf@bauges.imag.fr>
2008-03-14 12:42           ` David Ingamells
2008-03-14 13:05             ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-14 12:40       ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-03-14  8:23         ` John Arbash Meinel
2008-03-14 13:32           ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-14 13:39             ` James Westby
2008-03-14 14:13             ` Matthieu Moy
2008-03-14 14:30               ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-14 14:37                 ` Nicholas Allen
2008-03-14 16:17                   ` David Kastrup
2008-03-14 16:32                     ` Daniel Mark Watkins
2008-03-14 15:15                 ` David Allouche
2008-03-14 15:21                   ` James Westby
2008-03-14 15:43                 ` Matthieu Moy
2008-03-14 13:35           ` David Kastrup
2008-03-14 13:44             ` James Westby
2008-03-14 13:59               ` David Kastrup
2008-03-14 14:09                 ` James Westby
2008-03-14 14:29                   ` Nicholas Allen
2008-03-15  0:39                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-03-15 10:30                     ` James Westby
2008-03-15 12:30                       ` James Westby
2008-03-14 23:34           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-03-17 10:41             ` Matthieu Moy
2008-03-17 12:39             ` Sergei Organov
2008-03-18  1:48               ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-03-18  2:13                 ` dhruva
2008-03-18  4:03                   ` Karl Fogel
2008-03-18  5:00                     ` dhruva
2008-03-18  5:40                       ` Jonathan Lange
2008-03-18  9:17                     ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-18 10:00                       ` dhruva
2008-03-19  5:44                         ` Bastien
2008-03-19  9:42                           ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-03-19 14:04                             ` Bastien
2008-03-19 14:49                               ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-03-19 15:30                                 ` Bastien
2008-03-29  1:00                         ` Xavier Maillard
2008-03-18 16:50                       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-18 18:15                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-03-20 14:00                           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-20 14:10                             ` Jason Rumney
2008-03-20 15:33                               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-20 20:34                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-03-21 12:51                             ` dhruva
2008-03-29  1:00                       ` Xavier Maillard
2008-03-18 19:31                     ` Mike Mattie
2008-03-18 19:27                   ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-18 20:05                     ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-18 20:26                       ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2008-03-22  4:23                         ` Michael Olson
2008-03-22 11:18                           ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2008-03-24  6:19                             ` Michael Olson
2008-03-25  9:36                               ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2008-03-20  1:04                       ` Jonathan Lange
2008-03-18 20:58                     ` Brian Cully
2008-03-18 21:13                       ` Mike Mattie
2008-03-18 21:45                     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-18 22:02                       ` Jonathan Lange
2008-03-19  1:21                         ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-18 23:18                       ` Chong Yidong
2008-03-18 23:46                         ` Nick Roberts
2008-03-19  0:13                         ` Thomas Lord
2008-03-19  0:17                           ` Mike Mattie
2008-03-19  1:14                             ` Thomas Lord
2008-03-19  0:12                     ` Johannes Weiner
2008-03-26  7:56                       ` David Kastrup
2008-03-27 22:22                         ` Johannes Weiner
2008-03-29  1:00                         ` Xavier Maillard
2008-03-14 12:56         ` dhruva
2008-03-14 13:10           ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-14 13:23             ` dhruva
2008-03-14 13:26               ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-14 14:19             ` Matthieu Moy
2008-03-14 14:29               ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-15  0:43             ` Jonathan Rockway
2008-03-15 14:37               ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-03-15 15:06                 ` dhruva
2008-03-15  0:44             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-03-17 10:43               ` Matthieu Moy
2008-03-14 22:26           ` Martin Geisler
2008-03-15 12:09             ` dhruva
2008-03-15 21:32               ` Martin Geisler
2008-03-25 21:46               ` Giorgos Keramidas
2008-03-19 10:50           ` Sascha Wilde
2008-03-14 13:03         ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-14 14:24           ` Matthieu Moy
2008-03-14 14:41             ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-14 14:46               ` Jelmer Vernooij
2008-03-14 15:15                 ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-15  0:49               ` Harald Meland
2008-03-14 18:04         ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-03-14 19:42           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-14 19:47             ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-14 20:01               ` Mathias Dahl
2008-03-14 20:06                 ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-14 21:43         ` Karl Fogel
2008-03-15  0:00         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-03-13 20:27   ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-03-14 10:23     ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-14  3:56   ` Forest Bond
2008-03-14 10:32     ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-14 11:28       ` Thomas Lord
2008-03-14 22:23         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-03-14 23:49           ` Thomas Lord
2008-03-14  4:52   ` Jonathan Lange
2008-03-14  6:21     ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-03-14  6:33       ` Alexander Belchenko
2008-03-14  7:16         ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-03-14  9:18           ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-03-14 10:08             ` Matthew D. Fuller
2008-03-14 10:14               ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-03-19 16:31             ` Nicholas Allen
2008-03-14 10:35     ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-14 10:37     ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-14 11:30   ` Matt Nordhoff
2008-03-29  1:00   ` Xavier Maillard
2008-03-13 13:07 ` Andrea Russo
2008-03-14  9:16   ` Nicholas Allen
2008-03-13 14:18 ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-14 18:08 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-14 18:35   ` Jason Earl
2008-03-14 18:51   ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-14 19:15     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-14 19:32       ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-14 20:12       ` Thomas Lord
2008-03-14 18:31 ` Goffredo Baroncelli
2008-03-16 18:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-16 19:53   ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-17 15:00     ` Michael Haggerty
2008-03-17 16:37       ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-16 21:47   ` Toshio Kuratomi
2008-03-18 15:43 ` Emacs repository benchmark: bzr and git Teemu Likonen
2008-03-18 15:51   ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-03-18 16:05     ` dhruva
2008-03-19  2:53       ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-27  1:32         ` Jonathan Lange
2008-03-27  2:24           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-03-27  2:55           ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-27 11:58             ` dhruva
2008-03-27 13:59             ` Vincent Ladeuil
2008-03-29  1:17               ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-29  1:30                 ` James Westby
2008-03-29  3:09                   ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-29  4:06                     ` James Westby
2008-03-29  4:50                       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-29  1:00             ` Xavier Maillard
2008-03-29  4:34               ` David Cournapeau
2008-03-31  0:00                 ` Xavier Maillard
2008-03-29  1:00       ` Xavier Maillard
2008-03-29  9:19         ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-29  9:58           ` David Kastrup
2008-03-29 10:13             ` dhruva
2008-03-29 10:26               ` David Kastrup
2008-03-31  0:00               ` Xavier Maillard
2008-03-29 14:55             ` Randal L. Schwartz
2008-03-29 16:35               ` Óscar Fuentes
2008-03-29 18:13                 ` tomas
2008-03-29 21:05                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-03-30  5:49               ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-30  5:49           ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-30  6:25             ` Jonathan Rockway
2008-03-30 19:56               ` Richard Stallman
2008-03-31  0:00           ` Xavier Maillard
2008-03-18 16:19     ` Matthieu Moy
2008-03-19  9:43       ` Teemu Likonen
2008-03-18 16:02   ` Matthieu Moy
2008-03-18 16:33     ` dhruva
2008-03-18 18:41       ` Jonathan Corbet
2008-03-19  1:40         ` dhruva
2008-03-18 21:04       ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-03-18 17:11     ` Teemu Likonen
2008-03-18 17:43     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-03-18 18:20       ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-03-18 16:43   ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-18 19:19     ` Teemu Likonen
2008-03-18 20:22   ` James Westby
2008-03-19 11:37   ` Emacs repository benchmark: bzr and git (rerun) Teemu Likonen
2008-03-19 12:17     ` James Westby
2008-03-19 22:39       ` Robert Collins
2008-03-19 16:41     ` Teemu Likonen
2008-03-22 17:59 ` Emacs Bazaar repository Stefan Monnier
2008-03-22 19:59   ` Andreas Schwab
2008-03-24  7:53 ` Christian Faulhammer

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