From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: inputting characters by hexadigit Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 02:43:18 +0300 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <873am2hkh5.fsf@jurta.org> References: <868ww3vydn.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87myki6fqp.fsf@jurta.org> <87mykhz6tf.fsf@jurta.org> <87tzeokrku.fsf@jurta.org> <87tzeogih6.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <488020A4.4060601@harpegolden.net> <873am6rb8k.fsf@jurta.org> <87r69oqojm.fsf@jurta.org> <48841992.6030604@harpegolden.net> <877ibfipbg.fsf@jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1216684098 1649 80.91.229.12 (21 Jul 2008 23:48:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2008 23:48:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: David De La Harpe Golden , tzz@lifelogs.com, Kenichi Handa , emacs-devel@gnu.org, Stefan Monnier , Miles Bader To: James Cloos Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 22 01:49:06 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KL57m-0003Nz-6s for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 01:49:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57855 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KL56s-0000It-WF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:48:07 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KL56m-0000Fo-7x for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:48:00 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KL56k-0000Dr-HL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:47:59 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=49505 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KL56k-0000Dh-Bq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:47:58 -0400 Original-Received: from relay02.kiev.sovam.com ([62.64.120.197]:61804) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KL56f-0006XX-Hg; Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:47:53 -0400 Original-Received: from [83.170.232.243] (helo=smtp.svitonline.com) by relay02.kiev.sovam.com with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1KL56Q-000GD9-SN; Tue, 22 Jul 2008 02:47:39 +0300 In-Reply-To: (James Cloos's message of "Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:25:33 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-Scanner-Signature: 8abf2c83e696415c40c55866f9369f42 X-DrWeb-checked: yes X-SpamTest-Envelope-From: juri@jurta.org X-SpamTest-Group-ID: 00000000 X-SpamTest-Header: Trusted X-SpamTest-Info: Profiles 4398 [July 22 2008] X-SpamTest-Info: {received from trusted relay: common white list} X-SpamTest-Info: {HEADERS: header Content-Type found without required header Content-Transfer-Encoding} X-SpamTest-Method: white ip list X-SpamTest-Rate: 10 X-SpamTest-Status: Trusted X-SpamTest-Status-Extended: trusted X-SpamTest-Version: SMTP-Filter Version 3.0.0 [0278], KAS30/Release X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: FreeBSD 6.x (1) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:101144 Archived-At: > Juri> I propose `RET'. Currently `C-q RET' inserts "^M". > Juri> And it is more natural to insert ^M by using `C-q C-m'. > > RET and C-m are the same on most terminals. And it does need to be > entered by way of C-q on occasion. Ah, of course, I was confused by the case of M-TAB and M-C-i. They are the same for Emacs but window managers steal one of them. Maybe then `C-q M-RET'? > I do like Your idea of using the standard number schemes as an option, > but I also want something super simple like C-q + RET. Isn't `C-q M-RET #x+ RET' still easy to type? Or even `C-q M-: #x+ RET'? This is very similar to eval-expression such as `C-u M-: #x+ RET' with only one difference that the latter inserts it as a number and the former will insert it as a character. -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/