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From: Thierry Volpiatto <thierry.volpiatto@gmail.com>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Optimal emacs shell for coding
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 13:21:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <873al9upnn.fsf@tux.homenetwork> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87k5el497r.fsf@lion.rapttech.com.au> (Tim X.'s message of "Wed,  13 Aug 2008 18:20:40 +1000")

Tim X <timx@nospam.dev.null> writes:

> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>
>>> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 21:02:21 +0200
>>> From: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" <lennart.borgman@gmail.com>
>>> CC: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
>>> 
>>> Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>>> >> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 20:40:35 +0200
>>> >> From: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" <lennart.borgman@gmail.com>
>>> >> CC: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
>>> >>
>>> >> Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>>> >>>> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 14:06:02 +0200
>>> >>>> From: "Lennart Borgman (gmail)" <lennart.borgman@gmail.com>
>>> >>>> CC: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> If you look carefully at the output you can see that what is not handled 
>>> >>>> is the parameters to "ls". If you try "ls -1" it will work.
>>> >>> What "parameters to ls"?  "ls" was invoked without any parameters.
>>> >> If you from a shell do
>>> >>
>>> >>    ls | grep
>>> >>
>>> >> then normally ls implicitly gets the -1 parameter
>>> > 
>>> > No, it doesn't.  Please try and see for yourself (I just did).
>>> 
>>> 
>>> We are miscommunicating.
>>
>> Maybe you are; I am not ;-)
>>
>>> I am saying that if I from a shell outside of Emacs do
>>> 
>>>    ls
>>> 
>>> than I get several files listed on each row while the output from
>>> 
>>>    ls | grep some-file
>>> 
>>> implies that ls got the implicit argument -1 when used in the pipe.
>>
>> And I'm saying that you are wrong: -1 is not implied in a pipeline
>> from the shell prompt, either.  Please try that and see for yourself.
>> I tried that both on GNU/Linux and in a Windows command prompt window,
>> and GNU `ls' does not imply -1 in either case.
>>
> Exactly. An you can do another test. Just do 
>
> ls | less
>
> all the files are on one line each. this is standard behavior for ls if
> you pipe or redirect it away from a tty. It only formats multi-column
> output if the output device is a tty, unless you provide the switch to
> force single column output. Note also that usually, the number of
> columns is a function of the longest filename and the display width. The
> concept of 'width' has no meaning with respect to stdout or when
> redirecting via | or > etc.
>
> Note that this is 'normal' behavior - if programs output multiple items
> per line, it would screw up programs that you pipe into. 
>
> Tim
Sorry, i insert again this reply here, i think i did a mistake and reply
on another topic.

As Lennart said you call ls with -1 arg or you can always call ls with
this arg setting it like that:

,----
| (setq eshell-ls-initial-args '(-1)) 
`----

now when you call for example "ls | wc -l" , you will have the
good number of lines.

It would be cool to have a function to call in some hook to call ls -1
only if there is a "|" after ls, this function do that but i need a hook
to call it:

,----
| (defun eshell-set-ls ()
|   (let ((com-line
|          (eshell-parse-arguments (re-search-backward "ls") (line-end-position))))
|     (if (equal (nth 1 com-line) '(eshell-operator "|"))
|         (setq eshell-ls-initial-args '(-1))
|         (setq eshell-ls-initial-args nil))))
`----


-- 
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Location: Saint-Cyr-Sur-Mer - France




  reply	other threads:[~2008-08-13 11:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <mailman.16366.1218454746.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-08-11 13:30 ` Optimal emacs shell for coding Xah
2008-08-11 15:24   ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
     [not found]   ` <mailman.16375.1218468298.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-08-11 15:49     ` Xah
2008-08-11 16:47       ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
     [not found]       ` <mailman.16385.1218473260.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-08-12  8:06         ` Tim X
2008-08-12 12:06           ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-12 18:33             ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-12 18:40               ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-12 18:52                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-12 19:02                   ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-12 19:11                     ` ken
2008-08-12 19:28                       ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-08-12 19:16                     ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                     ` <mailman.16490.1218568567.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-08-13  1:01                       ` Chris F.A. Johnson
2008-08-13  8:20                       ` Tim X
2008-08-13 11:21                         ` Thierry Volpiatto [this message]
2008-08-13 12:21                           ` eshell pipelines (Was: Re: Optimal emacs shell for coding) David Hansen
2008-08-13 13:15                             ` eshell pipelines Thierry Volpiatto
2008-08-13 16:09                             ` Glenn Morris
2008-08-13 21:01                               ` David Hansen
2008-08-12 18:30           ` Optimal emacs shell for coding Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-12 19:14             ` David Hansen
     [not found]             ` <mailman.16492.1218569015.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-08-12 20:08               ` Rupert Swarbrick
2008-08-11 19:18   ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-08-12  8:02   ` Tim X
2008-08-15  9:38     ` M-x terminal-emulator vs M-x term (was: Re: Optimal emacs shell for coding) Jonathan Groll
2008-08-11 13:40 ` Optimal emacs shell for coding Mike Treseler
2008-08-11 16:44   ` weber
2008-08-12  6:33     ` Mike Treseler
2008-08-11 11:38 Jonathan Groll
2008-08-11 12:05 ` Peter Dyballa
2008-08-11 15:06 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen

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