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From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>
To: Karl Fogel <karl.fogel@canonical.com>
Cc: Andreas Schwab <schwab@suse.de>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org, Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	Jason Earl <jearl@notengoamigos.org>
Subject: Re: Bzr switch
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 08:37:53 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <873a9iy5ke.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87vdmfn1fv.fsf@canonical.com>

Karl Fogel writes:
 > Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
 > > In the Bzr world, there's always something new coming up providing this
 > > and that performance improvement.  So there's no point waiting for the
 > > next one, cause when the time is passed, you'll end up wanting to wait
 > > for the next next one, etc... ad nauseam.
 > 
 > I understand what you mean, but This Time Is Different (or so I am told,
 > in no uncertain terms, by every Bazaar developer I talk to).

Who are you talking to?  The list traffic tells a very different
story.  Mark Shuttleworth (Da Beeg Boos) wrote "Thou Shalt Have But
One Bazaar 2 Format", and got *lots* of pushback.  AFAIK he gave up;
the Bazaar devs surely act like that pronunciamento is "inoperative".
Robert Collins is *not* on board on "2a", specifically, looms are not
included in 2a, which means at least two variants of 2a will be out
there in the wild for a while.  (Silver lining: looms are usable as a
local improvement, you don't actually need them on the server for many
common workflows.)  Aaron Bentley is *not* on board on "2a",
specifically nested trees have not landed, but they will.  (Emacs
doesn't care, I think, but many projects want nested trees very badly.
It will land, not before 2.0, I suspect, but not too long thereafter.
This will mean a server upgrade, the formats are mutually incompatible
currently AIUI.)  Four variants.  And counting---don't kid yourself,
there will be more.

IMO (and that of the Python devs, see PEPs 374 and 385), Stefan is
right.  You need to settle on a version that's either Available Now or
Coming Soon To A GNU/Linux Distro Near You.  People who want to bleed
can always do that (to) themselves. :-)




  reply	other threads:[~2009-06-29 23:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-06-25 13:12 Bzr switch Stefan Monnier
2009-06-28  6:53 ` Karl Fogel
2009-06-28 10:45   ` Daniel Clemente
2009-06-28 10:56   ` Daniel Clemente
2009-06-28 19:55   ` Stefan Monnier
2009-06-28 20:26     ` Karl Fogel
2009-06-28 23:41       ` Stefan Monnier
2009-06-29  3:50         ` Karl Fogel
2009-06-29 23:37           ` Stephen J. Turnbull [this message]
2009-06-29 23:44             ` Miles Bader
2009-06-30  1:14               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-06-30  2:05 Robert Collins
2009-06-30 10:09 ` Daniel Clemente

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