Help to connect to & view ftp server directory/files

Help to connect to & view ftp server directory/files

[rpd]

Hi
I am trying to find how I can view my website ftp server directories & files
so I can edit & upload/download the files from Emacs. I have previously been
using AceFtp (freeware edition-& very good & useful-can I open/use this from
Emacs?).

Otherwise I have tried M-x ftp in minibuffer & get - ftp to host: - but then
I do not think I am putting in correct file syntax as I do not seem to get
anywhere (except the buffer says ftp mode(?)).
I have searched the internet & seen bits about Ange-ftp & Tramp & org-mode
etc but haven't seen a simple explanation of ftp server access anywhere yet!
(no simple beginner emacs tutorial for this anywhere?!). Can someone please
explain this to me simply?
Later I will be interested in seeing how I can do website development in
Emacs.

For now I am most grateful for help & advice with accessing my ftp server &
look forward to helpful replies. As ever, many thanks
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Re: Help to connect to & view ftp server directory/files

[A.Politz]

On Aug 28, 11:01 pm, rpd <rich...@dickinson350.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> Hi
> I am trying to find how I can view my website ftp server directories & files
> so I can edit & upload/download the files from Emacs.
[...]

You use it like any other filesystem, e.g. with dired.

C-x d /ftp:anonymous@ftp.idsoftware.com: RET
C-x 2
C-x d ~ RET

Now mark some files in the ftp window and type
C RET
to copy them to your local filesystem.  This would go both
ways, if you had write access on the server.

(info "(emacs) Remote Files")

-ap

Re: Help to connect to & view ftp server directory/files

[rpd]

Hi AP
Thanks for your reply.
At the moment this doesn't work for me.
This is the error message I get:

 c:/Users/Dad:
  wildcard ftp.<username>@ftp.<ftpserver> 

(I have inserted <username> & <ftpserver> for the exact matches)
		   
(No match)
total used in directory 0 available 26648608

What is this please? How can I change this so I can connect to the server?

Thanks

A.Politz wrote:
> 
> On Aug 28, 11:01 pm, rpd <rich...@dickinson350.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>> Hi
>> I am trying to find how I can view my website ftp server directories &
>> files
>> so I can edit & upload/download the files from Emacs.
> [...]
> 
> You use it like any other filesystem, e.g. with dired.
> 
> C-x d /ftp:anonymous@ftp.idsoftware.com: RET
> C-x 2
> C-x d ~ RET
> 
> Now mark some files in the ftp window and type
> C RET
> to copy them to your local filesystem.  This would go both
> ways, if you had write access on the server.
> 
> (info "(emacs) Remote Files")
> 
> -ap
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Re: Help to connect to & view ftp server directory/files

[rpd]

Hi
I tried C-x-d

/<username>@ftp.<server>:


& was prompted for password for <server> but when I gave the password Emacs
froze
Any ideas anyone?


rpd wrote:
> 
> Hi AP
> Thanks for your reply.
> At the moment this doesn't work for me.
> This is the error message I get:
> 
>  c:/Users/Dad:
>   wildcard ftp.<username>@ftp.<ftpserver> 
> 
> (I have inserted <username> & <ftpserver> for the exact matches)
> 		   
> (No match)
> total used in directory 0 available 26648608
> 
> What is this please? How can I change this so I can connect to the server?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> A.Politz wrote:
>> 
>> On Aug 28, 11:01 pm, rpd <rich...@dickinson350.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>>> Hi
>>> I am trying to find how I can view my website ftp server directories &
>>> files
>>> so I can edit & upload/download the files from Emacs.
>> [...]
>> 
>> You use it like any other filesystem, e.g. with dired.
>> 
>> C-x d /ftp:anonymous@ftp.idsoftware.com: RET
>> C-x 2
>> C-x d ~ RET
>> 
>> Now mark some files in the ftp window and type
>> C RET
>> to copy them to your local filesystem.  This would go both
>> ways, if you had write access on the server.
>> 
>> (info "(emacs) Remote Files")
>> 
>> -ap
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 

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Re: Help to connect to & view ftp server directory/files

[Xavier Sanchez]

On Aug 29, 6:45 am, rpd <rich...@dickinson350.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> Hi
> I tried C-x-d
>
> /<username>@ftp.<server>:
>
> & was prompted for password for <server> but when I gave the password Emacs
> froze
> Any ideas anyone?
>

I had the same problem, and solved it by using this alternate client:
ftp://ftp.gnu.org/old-gnu/emacs/windows/contrib/ftp-for-win32.zip

Put it anywhere, (but don't try to replace the Windows ftp client) and
put this line in your .emacs:
(setq ange-ftp-ftp-program-name "c:/path/to/ftp.exe")

Hope that's it
X

Re: Help to connect to & view ftp server directory/files

[rpd]

Hi Xavier

Many thanks for your very helpful reply. I followed your advice & dl the ftp
for win32 exe file & added the code to .emacs & put the path to to the .exe
in Path env and I can now access the server files!

(is there anyway to make a shortcut code to access the server more
directly?).

That problem had niggled me for the past 2 days! Glad you have helped me
sort it out! 
Best wishes to you


Xavier Sanchez wrote:
> 
> On Aug 29, 6:45 am, rpd <rich...@dickinson350.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>> Hi
>> I tried C-x-d
>>
>> /<username>@ftp.<server>:
>>
>> & was prompted for password for <server> but when I gave the password
>> Emacs
>> froze
>> Any ideas anyone?
>>
> 
> I had the same problem, and solved it by using this alternate client:
> ftp://ftp.gnu.org/old-gnu/emacs/windows/contrib/ftp-for-win32.zip
> 
> Put it anywhere, (but don't try to replace the Windows ftp client) and
> put this line in your .emacs:
> (setq ange-ftp-ftp-program-name "c:/path/to/ftp.exe")
> 
> Hope that's it
> X
> 
> 

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Re: Help to connect to & view ftp server directory/files

[Jean Magnan de Bornier]

rpd <richard@dickinson350.freeserve.co.uk> wrote :

| Many thanks for your very helpful reply. I followed your advice & dl the ftp
| for win32 exe file & added the code to .emacs & put the path to to the .exe
| in Path env and I can now access the server files!
>
| (is there anyway to make a shortcut code to access the server more
| directly?).

I have this in my .emacs

(defun cez ()
"Connexion ftp avec junon dans emacs"
(interactive)
(find-file "/ftp:<username>@<servername>:~/")
)

Then:

M-x cez

et voilà!

And you can also store your password in a file, so tramp won't ask you
every time.

cheers,
-- 
Jean

Re: Help to connect to & view ftp server directory/files

[rpd]

Hi Jean

Nice one! (I should have figured something out like that myself really!).
Thanks a lot for your reply with that helpful shortcut.

I am now trying to use Tramp (& ssh) to connect to server but haven't got
that working yet!

Best wishes


Jean Magnan de Bornier wrote:
> 
> rpd <richard@dickinson350.freeserve.co.uk> wrote :
> 
> | Many thanks for your very helpful reply. I followed your advice & dl the
> ftp
> | for win32 exe file & added the code to .emacs & put the path to to the
> .exe
> | in Path env and I can now access the server files!
>>
> | (is there anyway to make a shortcut code to access the server more
> | directly?).
> 
> I have this in my .emacs
> 
> (defun cez ()
> "Connexion ftp avec junon dans emacs"
> (interactive)
> (find-file "/ftp:<username>@<servername>:~/")
> )
> 
> Then:
> 
> M-x cez
> 
> et voilà!
> 
> And you can also store your password in a file, so tramp won't ask you
> every time.
> 
> cheers,
> -- 
> Jean
> 
> 

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Re: Help to connect to & view ftp server directory/files

[rpd]

Hi all

I am now able to use Tramp to access my server remote files but cannot get a
shortcut to work with it (like the ftp example Jean showed in a prior post)

Currently I have this:

(defun scut ()
"Connexion ssh avec junon dans emacs"
(interactive)
(Tramp "/ssh:<username>@<host>:~/")
)

While I might be able to find and figure out what is needed for this to work
I would be very grateful for help from anyone who knows what is needed now
to get this to work!
I look forward to helpful replies, regards & best wishes


rpd wrote:
> 
> Hi Jean
> 
> Nice one! (I should have figured something out like that myself really!).
> Thanks a lot for your reply with that helpful shortcut.
> 
> I am now trying to use Tramp (& ssh) to connect to server but haven't got
> that working yet!
> 
> Best wishes
> 
> 
> Jean Magnan de Bornier wrote:
>> 
>> rpd <richard@dickinson350.freeserve.co.uk> wrote :
>> 
>> | Many thanks for your very helpful reply. I followed your advice & dl
>> the ftp
>> | for win32 exe file & added the code to .emacs & put the path to to the
>> .exe
>> | in Path env and I can now access the server files!
>>>
>> | (is there anyway to make a shortcut code to access the server more
>> | directly?).
>> 
>> I have this in my .emacs
>> 
>> (defun cez ()
>> "Connexion ftp avec junon dans emacs"
>> (interactive)
>> (find-file "/ftp:<username>@<servername>:~/")
>> )
>> 
>> Then:
>> 
>> M-x cez
>> 
>> et voilà!
>> 
>> And you can also store your password in a file, so tramp won't ask you
>> every time.
>> 
>> cheers,
>> -- 
>> Jean
>> 
>> 
> 
> 

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Re: Help to connect to & view ftp server directory/files

[Jean Magnan de Bornier]

rpd <richard@dickinson350.freeserve.co.uk> wrote :

| Currently I have this:
>
| (defun scut ()
| "Connexion ssh avec junon dans emacs"
| (interactive)
| (Tramp "/ssh:<username>@<host>:~/")
| )
>
| While I might be able to find and figure out what is needed for this to work
| I would be very grateful for help from anyone who knows what is needed now
| to get this to work!
| I look forward to helpful replies, regards & best wishes

If I understand you correctly you want to use ssh instead of ftp? In this
cas a ssh server must be installed on the distant machine.

Moreover, "Tramp" is not a valid function, why not leave "find-file"?

cheers,
-- 
Jean

Re: Help to connect to & view ftp server directory/files

[Michael Albinus]

rpd <richard@dickinson350.freeserve.co.uk> writes:

> Hi all

Hi,

> I am now able to use Tramp to access my server remote files but cannot get a
> shortcut to work with it (like the ftp example Jean showed in a prior post)

http://www.gnu.org/software/tramp/#Frequently-Asked-Questions

Best regards, Michael.

Re: Help to connect to & view ftp server directory/files

[rpd]

Hi Michael

Thank you for showing me this link/ way to the FAQ for Tramp.

This code (similar to the earlier code Jean posted) allows me to access the
files on the server but after I type in my password:

(defun scut ()
"Connexion ssh avec junon dans emacs"
(interactive)
(find-file "/<username>@<host>:~/")
)

How about automatically entering the password too?
I cannot see that mentioned on the FAQ- but there should be a way to do it?
Can someone advise me please how to include the password for full
'autologin' to the server?

Many thanks


Michael Albinus wrote:
> 
> rpd <richard@dickinson350.freeserve.co.uk> writes:
> 
>> Hi all
> 
> Hi,
> 
>> I am now able to use Tramp to access my server remote files but cannot
>> get a
>> shortcut to work with it (like the ftp example Jean showed in a prior
>> post)
> 
> http://www.gnu.org/software/tramp/#Frequently-Asked-Questions
> 
> Best regards, Michael.
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Re: Help to connect to & view ftp server directory/files

[Jean Magnan de Bornier]

rpd <richard@dickinson350.freeserve.co.uk> wrote :

| How about automatically entering the password too?

There are protocol-specific ways of authentication, ie different ways for
ftp or ssh; but these are not emacs related.

If you use ssh, have a look at the ssh manual.
-- 
Jean

Re: Help to connect to & view ftp server directory/files

[Michael Albinus]

rpd <richard@dickinson350.freeserve.co.uk> writes:

> Hi Michael

Hi,

> I cannot see that mentioned on the FAQ- but there should be a way to do it?
> Can someone advise me please how to include the password for full
> 'autologin' to the server?

Autologin is not possible from Tramp. But you might keep the password
for the lifetime of an Emacs session; read the Tramp manual about
password cache.

> Many thanks

Best regards, Michael.