From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Chong Yidong Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Please take off-list [Was: Emacs learning curve] Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 21:16:59 -0400 Message-ID: <8739v9u19w.fsf_-_@stupidchicken.com> References: <4C3B6A8A.80105@gmx.de> <87wrt0e81n.fsf@telefonica.net> <62E9699C07054418AB66F9C5FCB54E5C@us.oracle.com> <87sk3oe3la.fsf@telefonica.net> <1154D96E7D2F401D849266F359E44BB9@us.oracle.com> <87ocecdzou.fsf@telefonica.net> <2256C17F740A425884AD551DE7758056@us.oracle.com> <87fwzodqqm.fsf@telefonica.net> <5138CDF30B2D4B778F948015614DA7BC@us.oracle.com> <87iq4ijtdy.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <270AD461F0F14E549F82D88785A23A0A@us.oracle.com> <876306140d.fsf@telefonica.net> <24CFA9D538E942AEA803109469898525@us.oracle.com> <87vd86ymc3.fsf@telefonica.net> <8E35C169F19A420F949F4FA5DE35F6AC@us.oracle.com> <87lj91zrqu.fsf@telefonica.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1279934235 6124 80.91.229.12 (24 Jul 2010 01:17:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 01:17:15 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 24 03:17:13 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OcTMU-0001yA-Uy for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 24 Jul 2010 03:17:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38690 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OcTMU-0004HJ-4H for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 21:17:10 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=51457 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OcTMN-0004FL-4K for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 21:17:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OcTMM-0006gU-2D for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 21:17:03 -0400 Original-Received: from pantheon-po41.its.yale.edu ([130.132.50.98]:51280) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OcTMM-0006gK-0E for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 21:17:02 -0400 Original-Received: from furry (dhcp128036014221.central.yale.edu [128.36.14.221]) (authenticated bits=0) by pantheon-po41.its.yale.edu (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o6O1GxEQ031257 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 21:17:00 -0400 Original-Received: by furry (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E7060C013; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 21:16:59 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87lj91zrqu.fsf@telefonica.net> (=?utf-8?Q?=22=C3=93scar?= Fuentes"'s message of "Sat, 24 Jul 2010 01:46:17 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-YaleITSMailFilter: Version 1.2c (attachment(s) not renamed) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:127733 Archived-At: The signal to noise ratio in this and related threads is becoming intolerable. If anyone has a specific, concrete, and new suggestion, start a new thread. I emphasize the words "specific", "concrete", and "new". For everyone else, let's please wrap up the lengthy discussions of editor history, grand strategy, and the nature of the newbie. Or, take it off-list. Thanks.