From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs learning curve Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2010 12:10:43 +0900 Message-ID: <8739usiggc.fsf@catnip.gol.com> References: <10954D02-E217-49F3-8824-757DA34074AB@gmail.com> <83zkxzakr0.fsf@gnu.org> <83pqyva8ms.fsf@gnu.org> <878w4mrtdd.fsf@roquesor.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1281064276 18533 80.91.229.12 (6 Aug 2010 03:11:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2010 03:11:16 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 06 05:11:16 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OhDKz-0006QX-2K for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 06 Aug 2010 05:11:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58908 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OhDKy-0000PZ-8V for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 23:11:12 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=48156 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OhDKn-0000NV-JA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 23:11:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OhDKj-0000l4-F7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 23:11:01 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:37598) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OhDKj-0000ku-7O for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Aug 2010 23:10:57 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OhDKf-0006KX-0p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Aug 2010 05:10:53 +0200 Original-Received: from 218.231.154.125.eo.eaccess.ne.jp ([218.231.154.125]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 06 Aug 2010 05:10:53 +0200 Original-Received: from miles by 218.231.154.125.eo.eaccess.ne.jp with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 06 Aug 2010 05:10:53 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 20 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 218.231.154.125.eo.eaccess.ne.jp System-Type: x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu Cancel-Lock: sha1:U5XB86xaXZOZMqI6whxZnGJtcxo= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:128346 Archived-At: Lennart Borgman writes: >> Since I started using Emacs I have seen many window systems come and >> go.  What people call "Modern" window interfaces are just that, the >> currently popular window system behavior soon to be replaced by >> something else. > > Is not this rather one of the problems with free software? I think > most users would like a stable window system standard interface in > this regard. I think you're misinterpreting the time-frame here -- proprietary windowing systems have been no more stable over the time many people have been using emacs. [Apple may have the best claim, but even there, it's a pretty dubious one.] -Miles -- Insurrection, n. An unsuccessful revolution.