From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Albinus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#7291: 24.0.50; `non-essential' is incomprehensible Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 19:53:54 +0200 Message-ID: <8739rnlg7h.fsf@gmx.de> References: <9499566E643B466092A98013C6826011@us.oracle.com> <3457CB74869B424BB0DB5A41C034AED7@us.oracle.com> <7908A4E9737248F79A9D74B584DAEAC9@us.oracle.com> <837hh07syw.fsf@gnu.org> <82hbg4vc32.fsf@gmail.com> <83zktw5g0o.fsf@gnu.org> <6EF41FA484C34DC2AAE23367231A3C84@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1288462522 32582 80.91.229.12 (30 Oct 2010 18:15:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 18:15:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 'Andy Moreton' , bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: "Drew Adams" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 30 20:15:08 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PCFw2-0002pP-QZ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Sat, 30 Oct 2010 13:54:15 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PCFcu-0005zp-Qt for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Oct 2010 13:54:03 -0400 Original-Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net ([213.165.64.23]:37774 helo=mail.gmx.net) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PCFcu-0005zH-EN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Oct 2010 13:54:00 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 30 Oct 2010 17:53:57 -0000 Original-Received: from p4FC184D2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO detlef.gmx.de) [79.193.132.210] by mail.gmx.net (mp049) with SMTP; 30 Oct 2010 19:53:57 +0200 X-Authenticated: #3708877 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX186iiUf2Oo6ToeooHeI0vAkj1GZeQinfZMWP2vnr8 w7QWdk7dSyT+UV In-Reply-To: <6EF41FA484C34DC2AAE23367231A3C84@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Sat, 30 Oct 2010 09:16:16 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 13:51:02 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:41280 Archived-At: "Drew Adams" writes: > One last attempt to get past the mauvaise foi... > > This var is a `PLEASE DO NOT DISTURB' sign for the user's hotel > room. > > Nothing prevents firemen from entering. Maids know that their=20 > services are not important enough to ignore a do-not-disturb | > no-molestar | ne-pas-deranger | nao-perturbe | non-disturbare=20 > request. This knowledge is built into their code. > > Firemen do not even notice the sign. Maids actively keep an > eye out for it - that's part of their job. > > The user is a tempermental, often drunk&drugged musician who > has a manager. The manager code hangs the sign on the door > when appropriate. The maid code recognizes the sign and is > polite enough not to enter to perform routine housekeeping. > > Icomplete is a musician manager. Tramp is a hotel maid. I insist in being informed in German. "Bitte nicht st=C3=B6ren". Otherwise,= I do whatever I want to do. > (defvar do-not-disturb nil > "Non-nil is a sign to avoid disturbing the user. > Code that performs a relatively unimportant action that might > disturb the user can check this variable and choose not to act > when it is non-nil. It is not about "disturbing". If non-essential^W^W do-not-disturb is non-nil, Tramp does not open a remote connection. That's all until now, and that's the reason I have asked for this kind of variable. > The week after next we will study Homeland Security Advisory System > threat levels: `severe', `high', `significant', `general', and `low'. Oh, surprise. I thought there's only the threat level `severe'. Best regards, Michael.