From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jim Meyering Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: A better autogen.sh Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 17:25:35 +0200 Message-ID: <8739m6x828.fsf@rho.meyering.net> References: <87y66fv2d3.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <4D3A8666.4070609@cs.ucla.edu> <877hdvd49f.fsf@meyering.net> <83mxmrzhb6.fsf@gnu.org> <4D3C9C5B.8050303@cs.ucla.edu> <00oc4v55eb.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87vcz2xh57.fsf@rho.meyering.net> <87pqpaxgi3.fsf@rho.meyering.net> <878vvykoai.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1301412357 29972 80.91.229.12 (29 Mar 2011 15:25:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 15:25:57 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Andreas Schwab , chad , Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 29 17:25:52 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q4ann-0008JD-LU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 17:25:52 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58502 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Q4anl-0003FG-Ln for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 11:25:49 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=57324 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Q4anc-0003CZ-9E for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 11:25:41 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q4anZ-0004pr-Vc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 11:25:38 -0400 Original-Received: from mx.meyering.net ([82.230.74.64]:54946) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q4anZ-0004pW-JQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 11:25:37 -0400 Original-Received: by rho.meyering.net (Acme Bit-Twister, from userid 1000) id E83A260235; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 17:25:35 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <878vvykoai.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (Stephen J. Turnbull's message of "Tue, 29 Mar 2011 23:13:25 +0900") Original-Lines: 28 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 82.230.74.64 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:137856 Archived-At: Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Jim Meyering writes: > > > Sure, but that's fine. This is only stopgap, for those who > > don't read the build instructions. Those users are unlikely > > to be doing a non-srcdir build. > > Good luck with that attitude! > > Seriously, it may be the best you can do, but if so, be a little bit > ashamed. The users who don't read the build instructions are on > average not so dumb as you apparently think. Wow. I'm taken aback. Attitude? Where do you read "attitude" that I should be ashamed of? I certainly don't think (and didn't even imply) that instruction-skippers are dumb. I'm one of them, sometimes. The point is that most experienced users will manage to solve the problem of a missing ./configure themselves, and hence won't need to report a "bug" or ask for help. In any case, they are far outnumbered by the less-experienced users, the vast majority of whom will perform a srcdir build. Hence my "unlikely". Nothing I should be ashamed of, afaics. Jim