From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>
To: Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: face for non-ASCII characters
Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 13:42:28 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <8739l49uff.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87tydk2w7i.fsf@lifelogs.com>
Ted Zlatanov writes:
> On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 16:29:39 -0400 Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com> wrote:
> CY> So this kind of functionality might tend to encourage end-runs
> CY> around mainline Emacs ("come use my version, and all this extra
> CY> functionality is magically turned on!").
That ship sailed when Richard released Emacs under a free license.
Cf. the Mac versions, or the 15-year history of Mule before it was
included in the mainline, or Epoch. Experience shows that most users
return to the mainline.
> We could enforce the rule that you're only allowed to recommend other
> packages that live within the same ELPA or something even more carefully
> controlled (a fsf-kevin-bacon-number equal or greater than the current
> one, if you know what I mean).
You can't (and shouldn't try to) enforce anything. If somebody finds
the restrictions onerous, they'll fork the package library (or all of
Emacs, whichever seems more convenient at the time). If others find
the restrictions onerous, they'll install the forked version. That's
what free software means.
Eventually there will be a "google this package and install it for me"
functionality. I think a better way to go is to add a way to filter
on that functionality such that the user can white- or blacklist
certain URLs, and the package manager will query for URLs not matched
by either list. Default the whitelist to (<GNU ELPA>) and the
blacklist to t (ie, everything not in the whitelist).
Cf. the Debian free, contrib, non-free hierarchy, and Gentoo's
allowed-licenses facilty.
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2010-03-18 19:11 Translation of http status code to text Lennart Borgman
2010-03-22 1:19 ` Juri Linkov
2010-03-22 13:17 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-22 14:01 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-03-22 14:25 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-22 17:06 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-22 17:55 ` Sven Joachim
2010-03-22 19:23 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-22 20:32 ` Sven Joachim
2010-03-22 21:31 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-23 9:55 ` Juri Linkov
2010-03-23 13:08 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-23 14:26 ` face for non-ASCII characters (was: Translation of http status code to text) Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-23 16:28 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-23 18:18 ` face for non-ASCII characters Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-15 22:41 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-15 23:07 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-16 0:51 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-16 9:10 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-16 15:05 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-16 15:28 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-16 15:42 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-16 15:50 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-16 15:57 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-16 16:01 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-16 16:13 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-16 16:22 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-16 16:27 ` Drew Adams
2011-04-16 16:45 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-16 16:48 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-16 16:55 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-16 17:11 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-18 15:48 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-18 15:53 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-18 16:20 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-18 17:03 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-19 13:07 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-19 18:56 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-20 14:49 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-20 21:38 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-21 17:35 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-21 18:42 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-21 19:14 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-21 20:00 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-21 20:35 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-21 20:53 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-21 21:18 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-22 12:20 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-22 12:49 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-04-22 13:23 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-23 0:50 ` Richard Stallman
2011-04-23 7:13 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-25 17:54 ` Richard Stallman
2011-04-26 18:26 ` Chong Yidong
2011-04-26 19:05 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-26 20:29 ` Chong Yidong
2011-04-27 3:45 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-27 4:42 ` Stephen J. Turnbull [this message]
2011-05-02 18:18 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-03 1:50 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-05-03 14:45 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-03 21:21 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-05-04 14:41 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-04-27 12:41 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-22 14:20 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-22 17:12 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-26 3:14 ` package management proposals for Emacs (was: face for non-ASCII characters) Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-26 8:10 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-26 21:46 ` Richard Stallman
2011-04-27 1:19 ` package management proposals for Emacs Stefan Monnier
2011-04-27 3:36 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-27 21:14 ` Richard Stallman
2011-04-26 3:09 ` markchars.el 0.2.0 and idn.el (was: face for non-ASCII characters) Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-26 8:13 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-04-26 15:28 ` idn.el and confusables.txt (was: markchars.el 0.2.0 and idn.el) Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-13 19:42 ` idn.el and confusables.txt Stefan Monnier
2011-05-13 20:19 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-14 8:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-05-14 8:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-05-14 8:56 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-05-14 9:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-05-14 13:40 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-14 14:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-05-14 15:30 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-14 16:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-05-14 17:06 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-14 20:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-05-15 1:22 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-15 5:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-05-15 12:14 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-16 12:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-05-16 18:31 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-17 17:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-05-17 15:32 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-18 18:15 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-05-14 17:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-05-15 13:06 ` Kenichi Handa
2011-05-15 17:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-05-18 5:23 ` handa
2011-05-18 7:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-05-18 7:59 ` handa
2011-05-18 8:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-17 8:15 ` Kenichi Handa
2011-06-17 15:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-21 2:07 ` Kenichi Handa
2011-06-21 2:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-21 3:29 ` Kenichi Handa
2011-06-21 6:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-21 7:22 ` Kenichi Handa
2011-06-21 7:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-21 8:02 ` Kenichi Handa
2011-06-21 10:30 ` bidi at startup (was: idn.el and confusables.txt) Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-21 15:12 ` bidi at startup Stefan Monnier
2011-06-21 17:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-06-22 15:32 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-07-07 6:10 ` C interface to Unicode character property char-tables Kenichi Handa
2011-08-06 16:52 ` Using uniprop_table_lookup (was: idn.el and confusables.txt) Eli Zaretskii
2011-08-09 0:55 ` Kenichi Handa
2011-08-09 1:32 ` Using uniprop_table_lookup Stefan Monnier
2011-08-09 4:31 ` Kenichi Handa
2011-08-15 8:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-05-31 10:42 ` uni-confusables 0.1 is on the Emacs ELPA branch (was: idn.el and confusables.txt) Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-08 10:42 ` uni-confusables 0.1 is on the Emacs ELPA branch Ted Zlatanov
2011-06-08 15:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-04-16 16:00 ` face for non-ASCII characters Drew Adams
2010-03-23 19:40 ` Florian Beck
2010-03-23 14:35 ` Translation of http status code to text Miles Bader
2010-03-23 14:22 ` highlighting non-ASCII characters (was: Translation of http status code to text) Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-23 16:50 ` highlighting non-ASCII characters (was: Translation of http statuscode " Drew Adams
2010-03-23 21:49 ` highlighting non-ASCII characters Stefan Monnier
2010-03-23 21:53 ` Drew Adams
2010-03-24 0:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-03-24 1:03 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-24 2:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-03-24 4:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-03-24 5:14 ` Jason Rumney
2010-03-24 13:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-03-24 15:06 ` Jason Rumney
2010-03-24 19:47 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-24 10:05 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-24 16:21 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-24 19:34 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-26 17:35 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-26 20:43 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-26 22:50 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-29 18:38 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-29 18:48 ` Drew Adams
2010-03-29 20:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-03-29 20:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-03-29 20:51 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-30 13:22 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-29 21:05 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-29 21:31 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-29 21:32 ` Drew Adams
2010-03-30 13:15 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-30 14:04 ` Drew Adams
2010-03-30 14:17 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-30 14:42 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-30 16:18 ` Juri Linkov
2010-03-30 1:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-03-25 7:11 ` Juri Linkov
2010-03-25 14:07 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-25 17:32 ` Juri Linkov
2010-03-26 0:32 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-26 13:38 ` Stephen Berman
2010-03-26 22:44 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-03-25 7:12 ` Juri Linkov
2010-03-24 2:09 ` Drew Adams
2010-03-24 5:00 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-03-24 9:28 ` Juri Linkov
2010-03-24 13:15 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-24 9:27 ` Juri Linkov
2010-03-22 18:41 ` Translation of http status code to text Stefan Monnier
2010-03-22 19:15 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-23 9:54 ` Juri Linkov
2010-03-23 10:54 ` joakim
2010-03-23 15:02 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-24 3:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-03-24 17:35 ` Glenn Morris
2010-03-24 19:37 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-25 1:16 ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-03-23 12:57 ` Stefan Monnier
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