* Org tiny changes? @ 2012-04-29 3:24 François Pinard 2012-04-29 8:28 ` Bastien 0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread From: François Pinard @ 2012-04-29 3:24 UTC (permalink / raw To: emacs-orgmode Hi, everybody. I might not be following the mailing list closely enough… May I check with you, just in case I should rather chase an error on my side? * It now seems that UNDER\_LINE, while producing HTML, is now rendering the backslash instead of removing it. The backslash was previously required so "LINE" is not shown as a subscript for "UNDER". Today, if I use UNDER_LINE, it gets rendered as is, without the need of a backslash. * Whenever a date is generated (through "C-c !" say) or adjusted, the day of the week has a period appended. That is, where I was previously getting "[2012-04-28 sam]", I now get "[2012-04-28 sam.]". Are these changes on purpose? If yes, I'll mass edit my files so they become consistent with the new behavior. If not, please advise me. ☺ François P.S. I installed Ubuntu 12.04 on a fresh partition today, and observed the changes after the fact (and after having re-installed Org from Git). This is probably a mere coincidence, I would not be tempted to think the upgrading of Ubuntu has a consequence on the Org changes I'm seeing. Oh, by the way, Org now installs in /usr/local/emacs/site-lisp/org/, while it used to go within /usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp/. That's another change which I presume willful, and to which I quickly adjusted. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
* Re: Org tiny changes? 2012-04-29 3:24 Org tiny changes? François Pinard @ 2012-04-29 8:28 ` Bastien 2012-04-30 20:53 ` François Pinard 0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread From: Bastien @ 2012-04-29 8:28 UTC (permalink / raw To: François Pinard; +Cc: emacs-orgmode Hi François, François Pinard <pinard@iro.umontreal.ca> writes: > * It now seems that UNDER\_LINE, while producing HTML, is now rendering > the backslash instead of removing it. The backslash was previously > required so "LINE" is not shown as a subscript for "UNDER". Today, if > I use UNDER_LINE, it gets rendered as is, without the need of a > backslash. Can you give us a hint on what versions you're comparing here? > * Whenever a date is generated (through "C-c !" say) or adjusted, the > day of the week has a period appended. That is, where I was > previously getting "[2012-04-28 sam]", I now get "[2012-04-28 sam.]". IIRC, this is a change in calendar. But you don't need to update your old timestamps, Org understands them. > P.S. I installed Ubuntu 12.04 on a fresh partition today, and observed > the changes after the fact (and after having re-installed Org from Git). > This is probably a mere coincidence, I would not be tempted to think the > upgrading of Ubuntu has a consequence on the Org changes I'm seeing. Please give us raw version numbers. Thanks! -- Bastien ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
* Re: Org tiny changes? 2012-04-29 8:28 ` Bastien @ 2012-04-30 20:53 ` François Pinard 2012-05-01 11:34 ` Bastien 0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread From: François Pinard @ 2012-04-30 20:53 UTC (permalink / raw To: emacs-orgmode Bastien <bzg@gnu.org> writes: > Hi François, >> It now seems that UNDER\_LINE, while producing HTML, is now rendering >> the backslash instead of removing it. [...] I would not be tempted >> to think the upgrading of Ubuntu has a consequence on the Org changes >> I'm seeing. > Can you give us a hint on what versions you're comparing here? [...] > Please give us raw version numbers. Nicely, org-mode/.git/logs/HEAD also contains a trace of all pull operations and reached commits. Well, the dates are not in the clear, which is a minor inconvenience. My real problem is that I do not having good memory of times, so even seeing the dates, it is uneasy for me to be really assertive about when, and so for which commit, everything worked as I expect. I could bisect if the matter becomes important. I came to suspect a mix of Org Emacs Lisp files from the Ubuntu bundled Emacs, prefix=/usr, and those coming from Git, prefix=/usr/local/. Right or wrong, I came to suspect this because the installation of Org from Git goes to a different place (at least for me) now that the Makefile has been reshuffled. Indeed, LTTng 2.0 quickly reveals that there is a problem somewhere, which i still have to identify. The existence of this tool is worth sharing: now provided within Ubuntu 12.04 through package lttng-tools, and is immensely more powerful than strace, and has much less overhead too. You might have to add "tracing" to yourself in /etc/group first. If curious, visit https://bugs.lttng.org/projects/lttng-tools/wiki . In a word, I'm more likely to think that the problem really happened after I upgraded Ubuntu, because its Emacs contains Org already, and because I install Org from Git within /usr/local instead. Let me to understand more closely how the mix is happening here. If I find nothing, I'll likely be back, and you'll read me moaning again :-). >> * Whenever a date is generated (through "C-c !" say) or adjusted, the >> day of the week has a period appended. That is, where I was >> previously getting "[2012-04-28 sam]", I now get "[2012-04-28 sam.]". > IIRC, this is a change in calendar. But you don't need to update your > old timestamps, Org understands them. Even if it does, the HTML rendering has a non-uniform presentation. I would rather adjust all timestamps. A bit of work, but not that much! I'll wait a bit more before doing it, just to get a better feeling that the change is going to stay (and not a consequence of the confusion explained above). Thanks for your patience with me! François ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
* Re: Org tiny changes? 2012-04-30 20:53 ` François Pinard @ 2012-05-01 11:34 ` Bastien 0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread From: Bastien @ 2012-05-01 11:34 UTC (permalink / raw To: François Pinard; +Cc: emacs-orgmode Hi François, François Pinard <pinard@iro.umontreal.ca> writes: > I came to suspect a mix of Org Emacs Lisp files from the Ubuntu bundled > Emacs, prefix=/usr, and those coming from Git, prefix=/usr/local/. > Right or wrong, I came to suspect this because the installation of Org > from Git goes to a different place (at least for me) now that the > Makefile has been reshuffled. The new Makefile install Org at the same place than the old one, so probably the change in the location of Emacs comes from Ubuntu. > Thanks for your patience with me! You're welcome :) -- Bastien ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
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