From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bastien Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Date: Tue, 08 May 2012 09:37:20 +0200 Organization: GNU Message-ID: <87397b15u7.fsf@gnu.org> References: <871umzrvfw.fsf@gmail.com> <87wr4rqg6g.fsf@gmail.com> <83d36j59gv.fsf@gnu.org> <87r4uz58e3.fsf@sec.modprobe.de> <83aa1n57p4.fsf@gnu.org> <5D17181ED92C4552AE8D4404DD035CA0@us.oracle.com> <87vck8sfyv.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <85obq05aua.fsf@iznogoud.viz> <87r4uvs4ae.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1336462600 10404 80.91.229.3 (8 May 2012 07:36:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 07:36:40 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Martyn Jago , Wolfgang Jenkner , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue May 08 09:36:39 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SReyN-000329-6P for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 08 May 2012 09:36:39 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55825 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SReyM-00079U-I9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 08 May 2012 03:36:38 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:38344) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SReyF-00079E-4v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 May 2012 03:36:36 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SRey9-0004dI-0I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 May 2012 03:36:30 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wg0-f49.google.com ([74.125.82.49]:36631) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SRey8-0004cw-Nw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 08 May 2012 03:36:24 -0400 Original-Received: by wgbds1 with SMTP id ds1so4287660wgb.30 for ; Tue, 08 May 2012 00:36:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:organization:references :user-agent:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; bh=4rpl6V1n/mkb/Po67JzFMENUqbfdRQfDBzEgipO2yko=; b=exEhAcbxnFZr42q+g5bII21SP6ouOxroYueyYs6+KOBPjDX1h3KV+gyXwLjpgwOix5 3/tySIngOEIHl13GRReHAEBLPNj3wg1a/seyp2Fhv2Q0bZWYyfVhvfUz3DXiRJkJ+j3h HoyMasChx9fBChwkfH4ebvHK0EZE7migZRtoHNfm38zgZRDN1GXhy7Sb+lvrd5is0TM1 5u4C2eoFAWpsrRwQfqV5ccB9WTjfcHaVPRPIQaNMxQmzeWUh608esZfk/r00nHGjsRlV GoOT+3PRwu4BP7J83a4Eqqz7S7Y51+nVPiDJ1vAuEsisKhZHTuADeWsMyw1ydZ/MMUlq oZSQ== Original-Received: by 10.180.77.233 with SMTP id v9mr13407193wiw.22.1336462582504; Tue, 08 May 2012 00:36:22 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from myhost.localdomain (pha75-11-82-236-86-204.fbx.proxad.net. [82.236.86.204]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u9sm27479817wix.0.2012.05.08.00.36.21 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 08 May 2012 00:36:21 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by myhost.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6D6118777; Tue, 8 May 2012 09:37:20 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <87r4uvs4ae.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (Stephen J. Turnbull's message of "Tue, 08 May 2012 13:08:41 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 74.125.82.49 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:150369 Archived-At: "Stephen J. Turnbull" writes: > Wolfgang Jenkner writes: > > On Mon, May 07 2012, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > > > > > Martyn Jago writes: > > > > > > > [org-mode idioms are] plain text. > > > > > > If it gets interpreted by a program and concealed because humans > > > really aren't interested in it, it's not plain text, it's markup. > > > > Except that it isn't. Gnus article mode does not hide the #+begin_src / > > #+end_src markers. > > Surely you don't expect that to convince anybody! The important part > of my sentence is "humans really aren't interested in it". And they > aren't. It's not part of the code, it's markup. This markup easily reads as "This is the beginning/end of source code written in Emacs lisp". I think this is useful and readable information for a human. -- Bastien