all messages for Emacs-related lists mirrored at yhetil.org
 help / color / mirror / code / Atom feed
From: Juri Linkov <juri@jurta.org>
To: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>
Cc: 1806@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#1806: dired-pop-to-buffer in wrong place
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 11:05:05 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8739261q8h.fsf@mail.jurta.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50602A8D.6010203@gmx.at> (martin rudalics's message of "Mon, 24 Sep 2012 11:40:29 +0200")

> It's because resizing a window is allowed to steal space from _any_
> other window on the frame.  That is, it will preferably steal space from
> all other windows in the same combination (the upper window in our
> case).  But if that is not sufficient, it can steal space from any other
> window on the same frame.  We could make this optional but is it worth
> the effort?

Then `temp-buffer-resize-mode' is not suitable for Dired and other
similar packages (Proced, VC).  When `temp-buffer-resize-mode' is disabled,
`dired-mark-pop-up' works correctly for a large list of files because it
doesn't steal space from other windows.  Its only drawback currently is
that it doesn't call `fit-window-to-buffer' for a small number of files.
So maybe a more suitable name would be `temp-buffer-shrink-to-fit-mode'
or some another name like that.  What is essential is that it shouldn't steal
space from other windows, but should give away its empty space to the
original Dired window (as `fit-window-to-buffer' does in `dired-pop-to-buffer').
This was the original behavior of this feature in Dired.

>> I also tried a new action `display-buffer-at-bottom', and it doesn't
>> seem quite right yet.  With the same configuration (`C-x 3 C-x 2'),
>> and two marked files it displays a large almost empty window with just
>> two lines.  `temp-buffer-resize-mode' helps to narrow it, but I still wonder
>> why this window is not frame'e full-width?
>
> I can add that if you want.  I suppose that your initial configuration
> was that of >= 2 side-by-side windows at the bottom of the frame?

Yes, 2 side-by-side windows at the bottom of the frame.

>> I mean the idea was to display
>> a list of files near the minibuffer prompt of the left side of the frame,
>> but this list is displayed on the right side of the frame.
>
> Aha.  So shall I split/reuse the left bottom window?  Or shall I split
> the root window immediately?

If now is possible to split the root window immediately, then maybe
it would be better to try doing so.

> The question is whether we want one general setting to handle this.  I
> intend to use this for `proced-with-processes-buffer' and vc-... buffers
> too - adding a separate variable like `dired-shrink-to-fit' for each of
> these seems some kind of proliferation.  Personally, I'd prefer to
> declare `dired-shrink-to-fit' obsolete.

Then a new function with a name like `with-temp-buffer-window-pop-up'
might be necessary to use it in Dired, Proced, VC that will work
like `dired-pop-to-buffer' does when `dired-shrink-to-fit' has
its default value t.  Please note also that it has this comment:

  (defvar dired-shrink-to-fit t
  ;; I see no reason ever to make this nil -- rms.

So `dired-shrink-to-fit' could be declared obsolete with functions
acting like its value is t.

> Note that I have added an option `temp-buffer-resize-regexps' which can
> be used to turn off resizing in selected buffers.  I could invert the
> meaning of this or do something different.  Any ideas?

You just unified a lot of scattered options (`special-display-regexps',
`special-display-buffer-names') to one option `display-buffer-alist',
but now reversed the direction of development by adding a new specific
`temp-buffer-resize-regexps' ;-)  When following the initial design,
`display-buffer-alist' should be able to do the same with
a corresponding action or property without need to add a new variable.
Is this possible to do with the current implementation?





  reply	other threads:[~2012-09-25  8:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 166+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-06 15:29 bug#1806: dired-pop-to-buffer in wrong place Juri Linkov
2009-01-06 17:33 ` martin rudalics
2009-01-06 17:54   ` Juri Linkov
2009-01-06 18:25     ` martin rudalics
2009-01-06 21:09       ` Juri Linkov
2009-01-07 10:27         ` martin rudalics
2009-01-07 12:09           ` Juri Linkov
2009-01-07 15:34             ` martin rudalics
2009-01-07 17:47               ` Juri Linkov
2009-01-07 20:00                 ` martin rudalics
2009-01-08  7:42                 ` martin rudalics
2009-01-08 22:55                   ` Juri Linkov
2009-01-09  9:30                     ` martin rudalics
2009-01-13 23:46                       ` Juri Linkov
2009-01-14 14:20                         ` martin rudalics
2009-01-14 18:00                           ` Stefan Monnier
2009-01-14 21:55                             ` martin rudalics
2009-01-14 22:19                               ` Stefan Monnier
2009-01-15 10:36                                 ` martin rudalics
2009-01-15 14:59                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2009-01-15 22:59                                     ` Juri Linkov
2009-01-16  2:19                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2009-01-20 15:59                                         ` martin rudalics
2009-01-21  2:51                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2009-04-28 22:58                                           ` Juri Linkov
2009-04-29  7:13                                             ` martin rudalics
2009-04-29  9:54                                               ` Juri Linkov
2009-04-29 12:39                                                 ` martin rudalics
2009-04-30 11:47                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2009-04-29 15:28                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2009-04-30  9:06                                                 ` martin rudalics
2009-04-30 18:29                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2009-05-01 10:04                                                     ` martin rudalics
2009-05-01 17:24                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2009-05-02  6:59                                                         ` martin rudalics
2009-05-04 13:52                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2009-05-04 16:40                                                             ` martin rudalics
2009-05-02 11:48                                                       ` Juri Linkov
2009-05-02 13:09                                                         ` martin rudalics
2009-05-02 13:54                                                           ` Juri Linkov
2009-05-02 18:53                                                             ` martin rudalics
2009-05-02 20:57                                                               ` Juri Linkov
2009-05-02 22:39                                                         ` Juri Linkov
2009-05-03  7:50                                                           ` martin rudalics
2009-05-03 11:46                                                             ` Juri Linkov
2009-05-03 19:02                                                               ` martin rudalics
2009-05-05  7:04                                                 ` martin rudalics
2009-05-17 19:54                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2009-05-18  8:11                                                     ` martin rudalics
2009-05-18 10:59                                                       ` Roland Winkler
2009-05-18 12:14                                                         ` martin rudalics
2009-05-18 15:04                                                           ` Roland Winkler
2009-05-18 19:44                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2009-05-19  0:09                                                             ` Juri Linkov
2009-05-18  8:11                                                     ` martin rudalics
2009-05-18 18:49                                                       ` Glenn Morris
2009-05-19  0:19                                                         ` Juri Linkov
2009-10-03  2:20                                                         ` Glenn Morris
2009-10-05 21:45                                                           ` Juri Linkov
2009-10-05 22:27                                                             ` Stephen Berman
2009-10-06  2:53                                                               ` Glenn Morris
2009-10-06  8:17                                                                 ` Stephen Berman
2009-10-06 22:38                                                                 ` Juri Linkov
2009-10-06  2:52                                                             ` Glenn Morris
2009-10-06  3:55                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2009-10-06  7:22                                                                 ` Glenn Morris
2009-10-06  8:19                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2009-10-07  2:58                                                                     ` Glenn Morris
2009-10-07  5:54                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2009-10-06  8:56                                                                   ` martin rudalics
2009-10-06 16:19                                                                     ` Glenn Morris
2009-10-06 16:46                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2009-10-06 22:38                                                                       ` Juri Linkov
2009-10-07  2:58                                                                         ` Glenn Morris
2009-10-12 20:32                                                                           ` Juri Linkov
2009-10-12 22:57                                                                             ` Glenn Morris
2009-10-13 22:37                                                                               ` Juri Linkov
2009-10-14 20:35                                                                                 ` Juri Linkov
2009-10-15  5:39                                                                                   ` martin rudalics
2009-10-15 22:29                                                                                     ` Juri Linkov
2009-10-16  0:30                                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2009-10-16  7:05                                                                                         ` martin rudalics
2009-10-16 13:09                                                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2009-10-16 13:25                                                                                             ` martin rudalics
2009-10-16 15:37                                                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2009-10-16 16:35                                                                                                 ` martin rudalics
2009-10-16 20:41                                                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2009-10-17  9:03                                                                                                     ` martin rudalics
2009-10-18  1:40                                                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2009-10-18 10:24                                                                                                         ` martin rudalics
2009-10-18 14:45                                                                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2009-10-18 15:34                                                                                                             ` martin rudalics
2009-10-19  2:08                                                                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2009-10-19  7:36                                                                                                                 ` martin rudalics
2009-10-19 14:01                                                                                                                   ` Stefan Monnier
2009-10-19 15:16                                                                                                                     ` martin rudalics
2009-10-19 18:35                                                                                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2009-10-20  7:35                                                                                                                         ` martin rudalics
2009-10-20 13:30                                                                                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2009-10-20 15:14                                                                                                                             ` martin rudalics
2009-10-20 19:45                                                                                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2009-10-16  7:05                                                                                       ` martin rudalics
2009-10-16  9:38                                                                                         ` Juri Linkov
2009-10-16 12:04                                                                                           ` martin rudalics
2009-10-16 16:10                                                                                             ` Glenn Morris
2009-10-16 13:15                                                                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2009-10-06 18:26                                                                     ` Glenn Morris
2009-10-06 22:38                                                                       ` Juri Linkov
2009-05-19  0:18                                                       ` Juri Linkov
2009-05-19  2:04                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2009-01-14 23:37                               ` Juri Linkov
2009-01-15 10:37                                 ` martin rudalics
2009-01-15 23:00                                   ` Juri Linkov
2009-01-16 14:52                                     ` martin rudalics
2009-01-14 21:28                           ` Juri Linkov
2009-01-14 22:01                             ` martin rudalics
2009-01-14 23:16                               ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]               ` <jwv63kpg30v.fsf-monnier+emacsbugreports@gnu.org>
2009-01-08 19:25                 ` martin rudalics
2009-01-08 22:59                   ` Juri Linkov
     [not found]                   ` <jwvy6xl9mz4.fsf-monnier+emacsbugreports@gnu.org>
2009-01-09  9:30                     ` martin rudalics
2009-01-09 17:19                       ` Stefan Monnier
2009-01-14 14:20                         ` martin rudalics
2009-01-14 18:00                           ` Stefan Monnier
2011-10-04 22:57                             ` Glenn Morris
2011-10-04 23:55                               ` Juri Linkov
2011-10-05 22:13                                 ` Chong Yidong
2011-10-05 23:23                                   ` Juri Linkov
2011-10-06  2:03                                     ` Chong Yidong
2011-10-06 15:20                                       ` Juri Linkov
2011-10-10 20:51                                         ` Juri Linkov
2009-01-08 14:31             ` Roland Winkler
2009-01-08 11:52           ` Carsten Dominik
2009-01-08 19:25             ` martin rudalics
2009-01-06 22:07     ` Stefan Monnier
2009-01-06 23:27       ` Juri Linkov
2009-01-07  4:23         ` Stefan Monnier
2012-09-22 13:24 ` martin rudalics
2012-09-22 23:54   ` Juri Linkov
2012-09-23  9:22     ` martin rudalics
2012-09-24  8:22       ` Juri Linkov
2012-09-24  9:40         ` martin rudalics
2012-09-25  8:05           ` Juri Linkov [this message]
2012-09-25  9:59             ` martin rudalics
2012-09-26  6:24               ` Juri Linkov
2012-09-26  8:48                 ` martin rudalics
2012-09-26 10:10                   ` Juri Linkov
2012-09-26 11:03                     ` martin rudalics
2012-09-27  8:01                       ` Juri Linkov
2012-09-27 17:32                         ` martin rudalics
2012-09-27 19:24                           ` Juri Linkov
2012-09-28  6:32                             ` martin rudalics
2012-09-28  9:38                               ` Juri Linkov
2012-09-28 13:14                                 ` martin rudalics
2012-09-28 15:27                                   ` Juri Linkov
2012-09-30 10:47                                     ` martin rudalics
2012-09-30 13:40                                       ` Juri Linkov
2012-10-03 23:29                                       ` Juri Linkov
2012-10-04  3:55                                         ` Drew Adams
2012-10-04  7:45                                           ` martin rudalics
2012-10-04 14:04                                             ` Drew Adams
2012-10-04  7:44                                         ` martin rudalics
2012-10-04  8:51                                           ` Juri Linkov
2012-10-04 13:17                                             ` martin rudalics
2012-09-26  3:16           ` Chong Yidong
2012-09-26  8:48             ` martin rudalics
2012-09-26 11:22               ` Juanma Barranquero

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=8739261q8h.fsf@mail.jurta.org \
    --to=juri@jurta.org \
    --cc=1806@debbugs.gnu.org \
    --cc=rudalics@gmx.at \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
Code repositories for project(s) associated with this external index

	https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git
	https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs/org-mode.git

This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.