From: Thierry Volpiatto <thierry.volpiatto@gmail.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Possible defvar bug
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 16:41:12 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <8738wty6hz.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 20130218150954.GA4583@acm.acm
Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> writes:
> On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 04:00:28PM +0100, Didier Verna wrote:
>> Jambunathan K <kjambunathan@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> > I am certain I don't understand what these paragraphs mean,
>> > particularly the second one.
>> > lands.
>
>> > ,---- C-h f
>> > | If SYMBOL has a local binding, then this form affects the local
>> > | binding. This is usually not what you want. Thus, if you need to
>> > | load a file defining variables, with this form or with `defconst' or
>> > | `defcustom', you should always load that file _outside_ any bindings
>> > | for these variables. (`defconst' and `defcustom' behave similarly in
>> > | this respect.)
>> > `----
>
>> This means that:
>
>> ELISP> (let ((foo 3))
>> (defvar foo 1)
>> (print foo))
>> 3
>> ELISP> foo
>> *** Eval error *** Symbol's value as variable is void: foo
>> ELISP>
>
>
>> And, no, this is almost never what you want :-) Just like Tassilo
>> noticed by accident.
>
> Why would anybody want to defvar a variable inside a let binding which
> also defines it, anyway? It may not be totally invalid, but it's
> certainly in breach of good taste. I would argue that the current
> behaviour _is_ what is wanted, since it alerts one to a probable error.
See also documentation of `require' which should not be used inside
`let' bindings for same reasons.
--
Thierry
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-02-18 15:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-02-18 14:40 Possible defvar bug Tassilo Horn
2013-02-18 14:47 ` Jambunathan K
2013-02-18 14:58 ` Tassilo Horn
2013-02-18 15:00 ` Didier Verna
2013-02-18 15:09 ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-02-18 15:41 ` Thierry Volpiatto [this message]
2013-02-18 16:15 ` Drew Adams
2013-02-18 16:26 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2013-02-18 16:40 ` Drew Adams
2013-02-18 16:29 ` Lawrence Mitchell
2013-02-18 15:42 ` Tassilo Horn
2013-02-18 16:19 ` Didier Verna
2013-02-19 1:40 ` Glenn Morris
2013-02-19 15:25 ` Richard Stallman
2013-02-19 17:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-02-19 23:29 ` Richard Stallman
2013-02-20 0:08 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-02-20 8:09 ` Tassilo Horn
2013-02-20 14:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-02-20 21:36 ` Richard Stallman
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