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From: Thierry Volpiatto <thierry.volpiatto@gmail.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Possible defvar bug
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 16:41:12 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8738wty6hz.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 20130218150954.GA4583@acm.acm

Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> writes:

> On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 04:00:28PM +0100, Didier Verna wrote:
>> Jambunathan K <kjambunathan@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> > I am certain I don't understand what these paragraphs mean,
>> > particularly the second one.
>> > lands.
>
>> > ,----  C-h f
>> > | If SYMBOL has a local binding, then this form affects the local
>> > | binding.  This is usually not what you want.  Thus, if you need to
>> > | load a file defining variables, with this form or with `defconst' or
>> > | `defcustom', you should always load that file _outside_ any bindings
>> > | for these variables.  (`defconst' and `defcustom' behave similarly in
>> > | this respect.)
>> > `----
>
>>   This means that:
>
>> ELISP> (let ((foo 3))
>> 	 (defvar foo 1)
>> 	 (print foo))
>> 3
>> ELISP> foo
>> *** Eval error ***  Symbol's value as variable is void: foo
>> ELISP> 
>
>
>> And, no, this is almost never what you want :-) Just like Tassilo
>> noticed by accident.
>
> Why would anybody want to defvar a variable inside a let binding which
> also defines it, anyway?  It may not be totally invalid, but it's
> certainly in breach of good taste.  I would argue that the current
> behaviour _is_ what is wanted, since it alerts one to a probable error.

See also documentation of `require' which should not be used inside
`let' bindings for same reasons.

-- 
Thierry
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  reply	other threads:[~2013-02-18 15:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-02-18 14:40 Possible defvar bug Tassilo Horn
2013-02-18 14:47 ` Jambunathan K
2013-02-18 14:58   ` Tassilo Horn
2013-02-18 15:00   ` Didier Verna
2013-02-18 15:09     ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-02-18 15:41       ` Thierry Volpiatto [this message]
2013-02-18 16:15         ` Drew Adams
2013-02-18 16:26           ` Thierry Volpiatto
2013-02-18 16:40             ` Drew Adams
2013-02-18 16:29           ` Lawrence Mitchell
2013-02-18 15:42       ` Tassilo Horn
2013-02-18 16:19       ` Didier Verna
2013-02-19  1:40 ` Glenn Morris
2013-02-19 15:25   ` Richard Stallman
2013-02-19 17:28     ` Stefan Monnier
2013-02-19 23:29       ` Richard Stallman
2013-02-20  0:08         ` Stefan Monnier
2013-02-20  8:09           ` Tassilo Horn
2013-02-20 14:05             ` Stefan Monnier
2013-02-20 21:36           ` Richard Stallman

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