From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Torsten Bronger Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: visual-line-mode as a replacement for longlines-mode Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 08:27:48 +0100 Organization: Phoenix Foundation Message-ID: <8738wguccr.fsf@physik.rwth-aachen.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1362036493 4913 80.91.229.3 (28 Feb 2013 07:28:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 07:28:13 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 28 08:28:37 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UAxuu-0004j9-0a for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 08:28:36 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36128 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UAxuZ-00085q-24 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 02:28:15 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:41122) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UAxuW-00085i-93 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 02:28:13 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UAxuU-00011T-P9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 02:28:12 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:45554) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UAxuU-00011E-IK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 02:28:10 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UAxun-0004gk-7j for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 08:28:29 +0100 Original-Received: from ip-176-199-173-166.unitymediagroup.de ([176.199.173.166]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 08:28:29 +0100 Original-Received: from bronger by ip-176-199-173-166.unitymediagroup.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 28 Feb 2013 08:28:29 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 39 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ip-176-199-173-166.unitymediagroup.de X-PGP-Fingerprint: C5C8 D6E2 79D2 EFE9 8C0F 6D77 D5E3 CEFC 9F51 6B77 X-PGP-Affinity: will accept encrypted message for GPG X-Home-Page: http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bronger X-Face: +wpw"|jN2Fde|7_lKBa0\7!_6suIE_m! x)'S9ytBu8tkt'k779jbzQ4o|p+@H_DCrIdnKG]E*w X-Binford: 6100 (more power) X-Accept-Language: de, en Jabber-ID: torsten.bronger@jabber.rwth-aachen.de Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:uJ9jlRXOYavu5kNkFpDXKpJo9Ns= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:157449 Archived-At: Hallöchen! I used Emacs org-mode in combination with longlines-mode. Now that longlines-mode is gone, I use visual-line-mode. However, I consider this a mild regression for two usecases. (1) Limiting line width. In longlines-mode, one could limit the line width for legibility and/or aesthetics. This doesn't seem to be possible anymore. In , Stefan Monnier says (I paraphrase) that he sees no need to add a set-wrap-width variable for visual line mode. I increase margin width by using James Wright's solution on . However, I regard this as a kludge. It is not easy to find, may collide with other things, and is visually less appealing to me than longlines-mode. (2) longlines-mode rendered org-mode lists better than visual-line-mode: - this is a list versus - this is a list The only solution is to use org-indent-mode. But this is intended for a different use case. Actually, I think visual-line-mode should work as well as longlines-mode. So should I file a bug report? Tschö, Torsten. -- Torsten Bronger Jabber ID: torsten.bronger@jabber.rwth-aachen.de or http://bronger-jmp.appspot.com