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From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>
To: Jambunathan K <kjambunathan@gmail.com>
Cc: Jarek Czekalski <jarekczek@poczta.onet.pl>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [SPAM] Re: Rectangular regions
Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2013 01:59:40 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8738nesps3.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87bo22yhrm.fsf@gmail.com>

Jambunathan K writes:
 > "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org> writes:
 > 
 > > why regions beat rectangles.
 > 
 > > The point is that Emacsspeak is an inherently linear medium
 > 
 > Rectangles are but table-cells - either belonging to table.el table or
 > Org tables.

Not the rectangles associated with C-x r <key> commands -- they're
defined by arbitrary row and column positions in the buffer between
point and mark, quite a different notion.

 > Out of curiosity, how would Emacsspeak users mark a rectangle or
 > traverse among those.

By touch (-typing), of course.  I've seen people use a mouse with
audible indications of row/column position, although I don't know if
that's been implemented in Emacsspeak.  I've not seen this, but I bet
very good accuracy could be achieved with a drawing tablet.  But even
if accurate, use of a tablet would require taking your hand(s) off the
keyboard.

 > Do they never use tables at all?

They do everything any user does, of course.  But frequency of and
preference for various activities change.

 > I would like [some] operations [on table cells] supported in Emacs
 > core rather than peripheral libraries.

You'll need to get people to agree on a specific table format before
that will make sense.  Eg, is org-mode table compatible with table.el
table (in either direction)?  How about REST or markdown tables, etc?




  reply	other threads:[~2013-11-02 16:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-10-30  1:59 Rectangular regions Stefan Monnier
2013-10-30  2:15 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-10-30  2:59   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-30  3:22 ` Leo Liu
2013-10-30  3:29   ` Daniel Colascione
2013-10-30 18:09     ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-30 18:24       ` Bastien
2013-10-30 19:20       ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-10-30 23:35         ` Bastien
2013-10-31 12:05           ` Jose E. Marchesi
2013-11-05 18:57             ` Stefan Monnier
2013-11-05 19:31               ` Drew Adams
2013-10-31 17:17           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-31 18:11             ` Jambunathan K
2013-10-31 18:36             ` Jay Finger
2013-10-31 18:54               ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-10-31 19:28                 ` Daniel Colascione
2013-10-31 19:38               ` Daniel Colascione
2013-10-31 19:44                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-01  1:50                 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-11-01  8:01                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-10-31 22:50               ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-11-01 17:12                 ` Jay Finger
2013-11-01 18:25                   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-11-01 19:05                     ` Drew Adams
2013-11-01 19:25                       ` John Yates
2013-11-05 22:44                     ` Davis Herring
2013-11-01  1:40               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-11-01  2:13                 ` Leo Liu
2013-11-01  3:06                   ` Josh
2013-11-01  4:42                     ` Leo Liu
2013-11-01  5:55                       ` Josh
2013-11-01  8:33                         ` Jambunathan K
2013-11-02 10:25                           ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-11-01 15:04                       ` Drew Adams
2013-11-02  6:31                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-11-02  8:14                           ` Jambunathan K
2013-11-02  9:56                             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-11-02 10:05                               ` [SPAM] " Jarek Czekalski
2013-11-02 11:00                                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-11-02 14:56                                   ` Jambunathan K
2013-11-02 16:59                                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull [this message]
2013-11-02 17:19                                       ` Jambunathan K
2013-11-03  8:41                                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-11-02 15:30                             ` Drew Adams
2013-11-02 17:03                               ` Jambunathan K
2013-11-03  0:59                           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-11-03  0:36                             ` Jambunathan K
2013-11-01 15:04                     ` Drew Adams
2013-11-01  8:04                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-01 15:04                   ` Drew Adams
2013-11-01  7:57                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-01 12:35                   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-11-01 19:26                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-01 19:55                       ` Stefan Monnier
2013-11-01 19:59                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-01 20:02                           ` Daniel Colascione
2013-11-01 20:20                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-01 23:35                               ` Josh
2013-11-02  7:00                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-02 18:20                                   ` Josh
2013-11-02 19:35                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-01 16:57                 ` Jay Finger
2013-10-31 21:03             ` Josh
2013-11-01  2:01               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-11-05 19:47             ` Mathias Dahl
2013-10-30 20:31       ` John Yates
2013-10-31 20:23     ` Richard Stallman
2013-11-01  7:40       ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-10-30  4:55   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-10-31 13:39   ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-10-30  3:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-10-30  4:22   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-31 20:23   ` Richard Stallman
2013-11-01  1:59     ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-30  3:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-10-30 10:36 ` Bastien
2013-10-30 10:39   ` Bastien
2013-10-30 10:49   ` Andreas Schwab
2013-10-31 20:22     ` Richard Stallman
2013-11-01  0:54       ` Leo Liu
2013-10-30 13:19 ` Jambunathan K
2013-10-30 14:53   ` Josh
2013-10-30 16:56   ` Jambunathan K
2013-10-30 18:07 ` Jambunathan K
2013-10-31 20:22 ` Richard Stallman
2013-11-01  9:25 ` Yuri Khan
2013-11-01 11:20   ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-01 12:57     ` Stefan Monnier
2013-11-01 14:31       ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-01 15:08       ` Yuri Khan
2013-11-02 17:36 ` Jambunathan K

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