From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#16439: [feature request] Highlighting of strings within Info buffers Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 09:54:39 +0200 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <8738khzs5c.fsf@mail.jurta.org> References: <86lhyic1ik.fsf@somewhere.org> <1394187.cuqsIWxxGs@descartes> <27136a64-176c-4312-a2aa-c86e81091a76@default> <874n4z3tb7.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <83ioteisx1.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1390291343 24466 80.91.229.3 (21 Jan 2014 08:02:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 08:02:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ruediger@c-plusplus.de, 16439@debbugs.gnu.org, sva-news@mygooglest.com To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 21 09:02:27 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W5WHy-0002Ix-IC for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 09:02:26 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56103 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W5WHy-0001fN-4D for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 03:02:26 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33254) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W5WHh-0001Ue-6D for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 03:02:13 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W5WHb-0003Ae-BS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 03:02:09 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:44937) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W5WHb-0003AY-6U for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 03:02:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W5WHa-0002RH-SJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 03:02:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Juri Linkov Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2014 08:02:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 16439 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 16439-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B16439.13902912729286 (code B ref 16439); Tue, 21 Jan 2014 08:02:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 16439) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Jan 2014 08:01:12 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58954 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W5WGl-0002Pg-AR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 03:01:11 -0500 Original-Received: from [69.163.184.122] (port=41551 helo=ps18281.dreamhostps.com) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W5WGi-0002PP-FE for 16439@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 03:01:09 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost.jurta.org (ps18281.dreamhostps.com [69.163.184.122]) by ps18281.dreamhostps.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB796301D1E7DA; Tue, 21 Jan 2014 00:01:06 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <83ioteisx1.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 20 Jan 2014 17:17:46 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:83844 Archived-At: >> Most optional features in Emacs are grouped into "packages". >> >> Should "packages" be highlighted as a string. Of course not. > > Why not? This particular example is produced from @dfn in Texinfo, > which should emphasize its argument. In the printed version > "packages" is typeset in slanted typeface (and without the quotes). It makes sense to emphasize either 1) using quotes and no additional highlighting or 2) using italic without the quotes, but not both styles (italic and quotes) at the same time. >> There is no additional emphasis on quotations in books. > > But we are not talking about books, are we? We are talking about Info > manuals, which are mostly documentation of software. Ideally, the look of on-line documentation should not differ from the printed version. How this could be achieved is a difficult question. In the comments of http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=5211 someone suggested using Markdown for Emacs documentation, but ESR strongly disagreed. Maybe using the natively supported Org format would be better. But actually I see no much need in replacing Texinfo as the source format. As for the output format, we could try to migrate in the direction of HTML. However, HTML has its own problems (no index, slow rendering, etc.)